Re: [STDS-802-16] [MMR-AH-UM] RE: A new usage model
Dear All:
Thanks very much for the comments. We understand that the
group focus on the wireless interface. The reason we propose the wired-RS
is because it is very useful in a real deployment. We may consider it in the
future as an enhancement if having time.
It may need a lit bit change in the RS and BS part. but it can be fully compatible
with 802.16e.
I also like clarify some technical details. Actually there is no need to interact
with IETF. The RS can just route the packet with normal wired routing algorithm
at layer 3. As the service is mainly for Best Effort traffic, so the design may be
simple. That's our view.
Best regards.
Wang Haiguang
-----Original Message-----
From: Sungjin Lee [mailto:steve.lee@samsung.com]
Sent: 2006年6月14日 12:58
To: STDS-802-16@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-16] [MMR-AH-UM] RE: A new usage model
Dear Wang Haiguang and all,
I fully agree with the previous repliers' comments.
If you carefully look at the PAR, we are discussing only for licensed band
and wireless interface. Your Proposal is very interesting item to discuss
for relay system itself, but I am afraid to say that the proposed wired link
is out of scope in neither this AH nor WG. Please be sure that the TGj is
approved only for amending current specification and the goal is to enable
Multi hop relay feature.
Best Regards,
Sungjin Lee
Advanced Research Lab.
Global Standards & Research Team
Telecommunication R&D Center
Samsung Electronics
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-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip Barber [mailto:pbarber@BROADBANDMOBILETECH.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 12:24 PM
To: STDS-802-16@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-16] [MMR-AH-UM] RE: A new usage model
I certainly agree with Nohara-san on this matter.
Further, I would argue that standardized specification of wired networking
is most likely out of the scope of IEEE 802.16 as a Working Group, even if
it is part of a collaborative wired/wireless combined network. The work
might better be suited for IETF, or we might be able to undertake it as a
joint project with 802.3. Not really sure about that. What I am sure is that
the 802.16 project mandate only covers broadband WIRELESS metropolitan area
networking and we would most assuredly encounter strong resistance from a
number of groups should we pursue wired network standardization.
Thanks,
Phillip Barber
Chief Scientist
Broadband Wireless Solutions
Huawei Technologies Co., LTD.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mitsuo Nohara" <mi-nohara@KDDI.COM>
To: <STDS-802-16@listserv.ieee.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-16] [MMR-AH-UM] RE: A new usage model
> Dear Jerry, Wang Haiguang, all,
>
> Thank you very much for your effort to make the relay usage model
> meaningful. Especially I
> would like to express my thanks for the ad-hoc chairing task by Jerry.
>
> This time I would like to remind all that our activity aims at providing
> the relay function by
> amending the existing standard as defined in 802.16j PAR, and let the
> chair organize the
> discussions within its scope. This case with the contribution by Wang, I
> am afraid that the
> assumption having the wired network among the RSs as a kind of alternative
> route seems beyond
> the conditions defined there thus the contribution cannot be handled
> within the task group.
>
> Your kind support would be much appreciated so as to make the ad-hoc
> meeting compact and
> efficient.
>
> best regards,
>
> Mitsuo
>
>
> Mitsuo Nohara
> Relay TG Chair
>
>
>> Dear Wang Haiguang,
>>
>> I think that your proposal for a wired RS is not really a new usage
>> model, but is a redefinition of the meaning of an RS. In my opinion this
>> type of proposal is outside the scope of the usage model ad hoc.
>>
>> From a technical standpoint, its not clear to me what the function of a
>> wired RS would be. If it is connected to the core network via a wired
>> connection then it seems to be performing the functions of a BS.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Jerry Sydir
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sydir, Jerry [mailto:jerry.sydir@INTEL.COM]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 6:01 PM
>> To: STDS-802-16@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>> Subject: [STDS-802-16] [MMR-AH-UM] RE: A new usage model
>>
>> Dear Ad Hoc Participants,
>>
>> I'm forwarding that attached email from Wang Haiguang to the list. I've
>> uploaded the slides that attached to that email to the following
>> location in the upload temporary upload server for the group to access:
>> http://dot16.org/CSUpload//upload/temp_db/C80216j%2d06_UMAHtemp_wired_RS
>> _proposal.pdf
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Wang Haiguang [mailto:wanghg@i2r.a-star.edu.sg]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 4:31 AM
>> To: Sydir, Jerry
>> Cc: Peng Yong Kong
>> Subject: A new usage model
>>
>>
>> Dear Jerry,
>>
>> We like to proposal a new usage model named "Wired RS".
>> However, we cannot send in with attached slides.
>>
>> So can you please help us to send the slides to
>> the mailing list for discussion?
>>
>> Best regards.
>>
>> Wang Haiguang
>>
>>
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