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RE: Cost Discussions




Mike,

What's happening in 802.3af right now is the result of a number of new
people who have joined the group who missed the "cost/price" lecture. We
have found that doing things with relative costs (dimensionless numbers)
works well. For example, if Solution A has a cost of 1.0, then adding
Feature B increases the cost by 2%, or something. This worked for us.

It's tricky.

Regards,

Steve

Steven B. Carlson
President
Co-Chair, ESTA Control Protocols Working Group
Chair, ESTA ACN Task Group
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Chair, IEEE 802.3af DTE Power via MDI Task Force
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org]On
Behalf Of Mike Takefman
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:41 PM
To: Geoff Thompson; jcarlo
Cc: IEEE802
Subject: Re: Cost Discussions



Jim, Geoff,

I hate to sound stupid my first time out, but isn't one person's
cost the previous person's price ? So I cannot talk about optics
module costs, or ASIC costs since I purchase those components at a price.

What rule can I use as chair to determine whether people are
truely talking about the cost of something?

thanks,

mike

Geoff Thompson wrote:
>
> Jim-
>
> As far as I am concerned, it has been a "Chair's Guideline" ever since it
> was put up by Don Loughry in 1988. I have the original slide and have been
> using it for years when the occasion is appropriate. The only difference
is
> that David has transcribed the slide verbatim and posted it on our web
site.
>
> I guess the problem is that even though it has been there all along no one
> else knew/remembered it.
>
> Geoff
>
> At 12:34 PM 3/23/01 -0600, Jim Carlo wrote:
> >Steve Carlson referred his task force to a note below. Should we make
this a
> >Chair's guideline?
> >
> >Jim Carlo(jcarlo@ti.com) Cellular:1-214-693-1776 Voice&Fax:1-214-853-5274
> >TI Fellow, Networking Standards at Texas Instruments
> >Vice Chair, IEEE-SA Standards Board
> >Chair, IEEE802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee
> >