RE: [802SEC] IMPORTANT NOTE: IEEE 802 Meeting room audio visual update
While 802.18 is small enough (at least now) that
we can do without a mike if needed, I can understand
the larger groups' needs for a "floor" mike ...
I don't know the clear solution, but maybe owning our
own IS the answer, as Roger and others have suggested.
Carl
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger B. Marks [mailto:r.b.marks@ieee.org]
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 5:13 PM
> To: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] IMPORTANT NOTE: IEEE 802 Meeting room
> audio visual
> update
>
>
>
> Microphones are a definite necessity.
>
> I ran into this problem before Vancouver. I solved it the 802 way: by
> going shopping.
>
> I picked up a nice mixer, three decent mikes, and cables for about
> $250. More stuff to ship and store, but it's far cheaper than renting
> (even if you throw it out after a week).
>
> The only thing missing is a mike stand. Those are hard to ship! We
> borrowed one or two from the hotel. In a pinch, you can put the mike
> on a chair.
>
> Roger
>
>
> >Ditto from me. Floor mikes are vital for our meetings of more than
> >100 people, such as the closing session of 802.3 or 802.3ah. In a
> >big hotel ballroom, you cannot hear a speaker unless they use a
> >microphone, and during the conduct of business, there may be a dozen
> >or more speakers on any given item. It is impractical to have them
> >all gather at the front of the room to use a single microphone, and
> >it wastes a great deal of time to have them get up from their seat
> >and walk to the front of the room when it is their turn to speak.
> >
> >We tell people to line up behind the floor microphone to await their
> >turn to speak. We call this the "physical queue". Our attendees have
> >gotten trained to use this system, and it works very well for us. It
> >saves us a considerable amount of time, and helps us organize our
> >debates.
> >
> >While I support Bob's analysis of the productivity impact, I think
> >that there is a much larger opportunity cost. We are usually very
> >constrained for meeting time, and every minute we can save during
> >the conduct of business allows us to get more business done. Thus,
> >the opportunity cost of a floor microphone can be standards
> >development business that gets left undone. Please let us have floor
> >mikes for our large meetings.
> >
> >Howard
> >
> >Grow, Bob wrote:
> >
> >>When 802.3 requests a floor microphone, it is important to
> >>productive conduct of business. This is especially true at closing
> >>meetings (802.3ah, 802.3 where motions involve significant comment
> >>from participants. I would assume not having the microphone
> >>extends an active closing 802.3 plenary by 0:30, so 200 people @
> >>$50/hr. (very conservative) is a productivity loss of $5000.
> >>
> >>I obviously have a problem with this arbitrary decision, and am
> >>curious as to where this referenced 802 guideline is published.
> >>
> >>
> >>--Bob Grow
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Dawn Slykhouse [mailto:dawns@facetoface-events.com]
> >>Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 7:18 PM
> >>To: IEEE 802 SEC
> >>Cc: Darcel Moro; Jennifer Hull; Howard Frazier
> >>Subject: [802SEC] IMPORTANT NOTE: IEEE 802 Meeting room
> audio visual update
> >>Importance: High
> >>
> >> IMPORTANT NOTE:
> >>
> >>
> >> Memo to: IEEE 802 Working Group Chairs
> >>
> >>From: Face To Face Events Inc.
> >>
> >>Re: Microphones
> >>
> >>
> >>Please note podiums with microphones have been requested for only
> >>the meetings which have specified podiums. We have requested long
> >>cords on all the microphones. As noted in the 802 guidelines, and
> >>confirmed by Buzz Rigsbee, all there is one microphone allowed per
> >>meeting with 50 or more attendees. If you have requested more than
> >>one microphone please be aware there will only be one microphone in
> >>your meeting room and it will be located at the front of the room.
> >>Any comments or concerns should be directed to Buzz.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Darcel Moro
> >>IEEE 802 Meeting Manager
> >>
> >>Face To Face Events Inc.
> >>Tel: 604/944-2652
> >>Fax: 604/944-2012
> >>
>