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RE: [802SEC] Fwd: Re: Enet dinner--expense approval, motion request




Count me in for dinner if we have one, and I am also willing to cover my
share.  But I would prefer a separate receipt.  I believe we should pay
for our guests out of 802 funds.  

Mat

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-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Jeffree [mailto:tony@jeffree.co.uk] 
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 12:06 PM
To: Roger B. Marks
Cc: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] Fwd: Re: Enet dinner--expense approval, motion
request


I will be joining Roger in disapproving such a motion if anyone makes it
in 
its current form. I think it is somewhat unbecoming for the SEC to vote
to 
buy itself $1500 worth of dinner out of the fees paid by the 802
membership.

I would be happy to vote in favour of a motion to cover the cost of 
providing dinner for our guests out of SEC funds, and, like Roger, would
be 
happy to pay my own share.

Regards,
Tony

At 10:44 14/07/2003 -0600, Roger B. Marks wrote:

>I will be voting Disapprove on such a motion. If the motion fails, I
will 
>be happy to personally cover my share (including my share of the costs
for 
>all the invited guests).
>
>And, by the way, who is the sixth panelist? We first heard Paul
Nikolich, 
>Geoff Thompson, and Bob Metcalfe. Last week, the names Ron Crane and
David 
>Boggs leaked out.
>
>Roger
>
>
>>Geoff,
>>
>>Since a 10 day email ballot wouldn't close until after the start of
next
>>week's plenary session, I suggest the SEC make a decision on the
motion
>>during the opening SEC meeting during your 'tutorial' agenda item.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>--Paul
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Geoff Thompson" <gthompso@nortelnetworks.com>
>>To: <p.nikolich@ieee.org>
>>Cc: <gthompso@nortelnetworks.com>; <billq@attglobal.net>;
>><stds-802-sec@ieee.org>; <DawnS@facetoface-events.com>
>>Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 2:35 AM
>>Subject: [802SEC] Fwd: Re: Enet dinner--expense approval, motion
request
>>
>>
>>>
>>>  Paul-
>>>
>>>  I would like to make the following SEC Motion to cover the costs of
a
>>>  dinner for the SEC and special guests to be held before the
Ethernet 30
>>>  Year Retrospective. The guest list will be the members of the SEC
(plus
>>the
>>>  Vice Chairs of 802.20), the six panel speakers, the officers of
802.3 plus
>>>  the 2 former chairs, I would also like to include (per you
suggestion) Jim
>>>  Carlo (IEEE-SA President Elect) and Houlin Zhao (ITU-T Director of
the
>>>  Telecom Standards Bureau). The guest list totals 31. Face-to-Face
>>estimated
>>>  $25-$30 per head. I will like a little wiggle room in the motion.
>>>
>>>  Moved:
>>>  That an amount not to exceed $1500 be authorized to cover the costs
for a
>>>  catered dinner at the meeting hotel for guests who will be speaking
at the
>>>  Ethernet Retrospective, the SEC, officers of 802.3, etc.
>>>  Moved by:       Geoff Thompson
>>>  Second: Bill Quackenbush
>>>
>>>  Thanks
>>>
>>>  Geoff
>>>
>>>  >Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 14:53:13 -0700
>>>  >From: Bill Quackenbush <billq@attglobal.net>
>>>  >To: Paul Nikolich <p.nikolich@ieee.org>
>>>  >CC: "Thompson, Geoff
[SC100:321:EXCH]"<gthompso@americasm06.nt.com>
>>>  >Subject: Re: Enet dinner--expense approval
>>>  >
>>>  >Yes it makes sense and it is required by our P&P as it is not a
normal
>>>  >plenary session expense.  If Geoff would get the cost estimate
from F2
>>>  >F and make the motion, I will second it.
>>>  >
>>>  >Thanks,
>>>  >
>>>  >wlq
>>>  >
>>>  > > Paul Nikolich wrote:
>>>  > >
>>>  > > Geoff,
>>>  > >
>>>  > > Given all the scrutiny we are putting on financial openess,
you (or
>>>  > > Bill) should make a motion to have the expenses for the Enet
dinner
>>  > > > approved at the opening EC meeting to make sure we are
squeekey
>>  > > > clean.  Does this make sense to you?
>>  > > >
>>  > > > --Paul
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > |=========================================|
>>>  | Geoffrey O. Thompson                    |
>>>  | Vice Chair,  IEEE 802                   |
>>>  | Nortel Networks, Inc.  M/S: P79/06/B04  |
>>>  | 4655 Great America Parkway              |
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>>  > | Phone: +1 408 495 1339                  |
>>  > | Fax:   +1 408 495 5615                  |
>>  > | E-Mail: thompson@ieee.org               |
>>  > | Please see the IEEE 802 web page at     |
>>>  | http://www.ieee802.org/
>

Regards,
Tony