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Re: [802SEC] +++ EC P&P Revision Ballot +++ compliance with SA Model P&P



Same here.

Regards,
Tony

At 15:56 15/06/2004, Mike Takefman wrote:
>I am regret to admit that I have not yet found time to
>read the changes. I shall do so prior to Portland and will
>have comments no later then portland.
>
>In the mean time my vote is abstain.
>
>mike
>
>Stevenson, Carl R (Carl) wrote:
>>Based on Bill and Bob's disapproves (and Bob's comments), I vote
>>DISAPROVE.
>>
>>(Maybe we can sort it out in the rules meeting in Portland ...)
>>
>>Carl
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Bill Quackenbush [mailto:quackenbush@ieee.org]
>>>Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 3:00 PM
>>>To: Stevenson, Carl R (Carl)
>>>Cc: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>>>Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ EC P&P Revision Ballot +++
>>>compliance with SA Model P&P
>>>
>>>
>>>Carl,
>>>
>>>It will be at least a couple of days before my reading,
>>>comparing the old and new versions and comment generation is complete.
>>>
>>>wlq
>>>
>>>"Stevenson, Carl R (Carl)" wrote:
>>>
>>>>I was waiting to see Bill's comments ...
>>>>
>>>>Carl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>>>>>[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On Behalf
>>>Of Sherman,
>>>
>>>>>Matthew J. (US SSA)
>>>>>Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 2:25 PM
>>>>>To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>>>>>Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ EC P&P Revision Ballot +++
>>>compliance with
>>>
>>>>>SA Model P&P
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>>FYI, tomorrow is the last day to vote, and so far Bill's
>>>is the only
>>>
>>>>>vote I have received.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Mat
>>>>>
>>>>>Matthew Sherman, PhD
>>>>>Senior Member Technical Staff
>>>>>BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
>>>>>Office: +1 973.633.6344
>>>>>email:  matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>>>>>[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG]On Behalf Of Bill
>>>>>Quackenbush
>>>>>Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 2:24 PM
>>>>>To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>>>>>Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ EC P&P Revision Ballot +++
>>>compliance with
>>>
>>>>>SA Model P&P
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Matt,
>>>>>
>>>>>I vote DISAPPROVE with comments to follow.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>wlq
>>>>>
>>>>>"Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA)" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Dear EC members,
>>>>>>This email initiates a EC P&P Revision Ballot.  The ballot
>>>>>
>>>>>opens today
>>>>>
>>>>>>- May 15, 2004 and closes June 15, 2004 at 11:59 PM Eastern
>>>>>
>>>>>Daylight Time. (Remember if you do not vote or abstain on this
>>>>>ballot it is equivalent to a DISAPPROVE vote). Buzz,
>>>please ensure
>>>
>>>>>this gets sent to the "802ALL" email list as well. WG
>>>chairs, if you
>>>
>>>>>haven't already done so, please invite your WG members to comment
>>>>>through you. Attached you will find a zip file containing:
>>>>>
>>>>>>        1) A P&P Revision cover letter
>>>(802.0-Compliance_with_SA_Model_P&P-Balloted_P&P_Revision_ballot.pdf
>>>
>>>>>)
>>>>>
>>>>>>        2) Text for the P&P revision
>>>>>>                        (SA_Model_compliant_LMSC_P&P_040514.doc)
>>>>>>        3) A mapping of text from the "old" P&P to the "new" P&P
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(LMSC_P&P-March_2004_R0_reformat-map_040514.doc)
>>>>>>The scope of this P&P revision is to bring the LMSC P&P
>>>>>
>>>>>into "editorial" conformance with the SA Model Sponsor
>>>P&P. That is
>>>
>>>>>to match the format of the SA model Sponsor P&P, but not
>>>to add or
>>>
>>>>>deleted any "governance" content from the current LMSC
>>>P&P. (I use
>>>
>>>>>the term "Governance" here is sense analogous to the term
>>>>>"normative" in standardese.) This letter ballot was
>>>approved at the
>>>
>>>>>Friday, March 19, 2004 EC meeting. The rationale for the changes
>>>>>being balloted are as given in the attached cover letter.
>>>>>
>>>>>>The actual changes are given in the second document listed
>>>>>
>>>>>above.  The changes are made in Word track changes mode
>>>against the
>>>
>>>>>SA model Sponsor P&P
>>>>>(http://standards.ieee.org/board/aud/sponsmod.rtf). Normally, I
>>>>>would provide a pdf of the changes rather than a word
>>>document, but
>>>
>>>>>I have placed embedded comments in the file, and don't
>>>know how to
>>>
>>>>>maintain them in pdf format.  While this is a set of "editorial
>>>>>changes" to bring our P&P into the same overall format as the SA
>>>>>model P&P, the changes are very extensive, and a number of issues
>>>>>for future P&P are noted.  Please review the changes closely.  I
>>>>>expect I will have additional recommendations for
>>>editorial changes
>>>
>>>>>prior to the close of this ballot.  Note that all
>>>embedded comments
>>>
>>>>>will be removed from the document once approved, prior to
>>>>>formal release.  The comments are there to highlight issues
>>>>>that have arisen during the reformatting process that will
>>>>>have to be addressed in a future ballot as I believe them
>>>to require
>>>
>>>>>>governance changes.
>>>>>>Note that a reformat map is provided in the third document
>>>>>
>>>>>listed above.  It is a heavily commented version of the
>>>current P&P
>>>
>>>>>that indicates where in the "New P&P" each section of
>>>text from the
>>>
>>>>>"old P&P" gets mapped.  It will help the reader to confirm that I
>>>>>have neither added nor deleted anything other than
>>>editorial content
>>>
>>>>>in reformatting the P&P.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>Mat
>>>>>>PS - Note that because of corporate firewall issues, I have
>>>>>
>>>>>renamed the zip file extension to "renamed_zip".  Prior to
>>>>>attempting to open the zip file you should change the
>>>file extension
>>>
>>>>>back to "zip".  If anyone has problems opening the file please
>>>>>contact me and I will provide the contents in uncompressed form.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>><<Compliance_with_SA_Model_P&P-Balloted_P&P_Revision_ballot.renamed_
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>>>>>zi
>>>>>
>>>>>>p>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Matthew Sherman, PhD
>>>>>>Senior Member Technical Staff
>>>>>>BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
>>>>>>Office: +1 973.633.6344
>>>>>>email:  matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
>>>>>>
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Regards,
Tony

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