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Re: [802SEC] Nov 2004 802 Meeting - Network Configuration Follow-up Questions



We didn't have an 802.3 server in Portland.  If for any reason we decide
we want one in San Antonio, all we need is a working local switch port.


--Bob

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 11:04 AM
>To: Grow, Bob; 802 Michael Takefman; 802 Tony Jeffree
>Cc: 802 Exec; 802 @F2F Dawn S; Darcel Moro @F2F; 802 @F2F Jennifer Hull
>Subject: RE: [802SEC] Nov 2004 802 Meeting - Network
>Configuration Follow-up Questions
>
>
>Thanx Bob,  and what about the access to the 802.3 server ???
>
>Thanx,  Buzz
>Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
>Boeing - SSG
>PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
>Seattle, WA  98124-2207
>phone:  (425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
>cell:  (425) 417-1022
>everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Grow, Bob [mailto:bob.grow@intel.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:57 AM
>To: Rigsbee, Everett O; 802 Michael Takefman; 802 Tony Jeffree
>Cc: 802 Exec; 802 @F2F Dawn S; Darcel Moro @F2F; 802 @F2F Jennifer Hull
>Subject: RE: [802SEC] Nov 2004 802 Meeting - Network Configuration
>Follow-up Questions
>
>
>By usable, I primarily meant that when people need to use the
>network in
>support of committee business, it is available.  No network until
>Wednesday is not acceptable, nor is competing with the hotel access
>points by cranking up AP power levels, nor is ignoring reports of AP
>outages, etc.
>
>Required:
>2. full VPN support
>--without this too many don't have email access
>4. local DHCP for IP Address generation and unlimited connections
>--limit of # attendees acceptable
>
>Important:
>5. traffic limiters and removal tools to cope with abusers --Keeps the
>bandwidth available for legitimate uses
>
>Nice but we can live without:
>1. virus and intrusion protection
>--Prudent people should have this on their own machines, but yes all
>suffer if someone hogs the bandwidth 3. network accessible print
>services --A parallel port printer is required if this is not provided
>6. pop-up ad blocking and filtering --Saves bandwidth, the
>sites we want
>to support access to though do not generate pop-ups (e.g.,
>standards.ieee.org) 7. etc.
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com]
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:08 AM
>>To: Grow, Bob; 802 Michael Takefman; 802 Tony Jeffree
>>Cc: 802 Exec; 802 @F2F Dawn S; Darcel Moro @F2F; 802 @F2F
>Jennifer Hull
>>Subject: RE: [802SEC] Nov 2004 802 Meeting - Network
>>Configuration Follow-up Questions
>>
>>
>>Colleagues,  May I assume that by "usable" you are indicating
>that you
>>still want to have most of the features which we have been providing
>>for our on-site networks:
>>
>>(e.g. -
>>
>>1. virus and intrusion protection
>>2. full VPN support
>>3. network accessible print services
>>4. local DHCP for IP Address generation and unlimited connections 5.
>>traffic limiters and removal tools to cope with abusers 6. pop-up ad
>>blocking and filtering 7. etc.  )
>>
>>I ask because there are commercial-grade internet service
>>providers that
>>offer services with little or no support for the "usable"
>>aspects, and I
>>think we need to ensure that we do provide at least that level of
>>service for our on-site users.
>>
>>One additional refinement for service definition would be to
>clarify as
>
>>to whether 802.3, 802.1, and 802.17 are saying they would be content
>>with NO access to their on-site servers, or would they want
>at least a
>>lower bandwidth (e.g. >256Kb/s) local path to gain some access ???
>>Note: our current design criterion locates all servers
>adjacent to our
>>Network Central segment.
>>
>>Thanx,  Buzz
>>Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
>>Boeing - SSG
>>PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
>>Seattle, WA  98124-2207
>>phone:  (425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
>>cell:  (425) 417-1022
>>everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Grow, Bob [mailto:bob.grow@intel.com]
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:22 AM
>>To: Rigsbee, Everett O
>>Subject: RE: [802SEC] Nov 2004 802 Meeting - Some GOOD NEWS !!!
>>
>>
>>The same is true of 802.3, give us reliable and usable
>internet access
>>and our WG attendees will be happy.
>>
>>--Bob Grow
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org
>>>[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of
>>>Rigsbee, Everett O
>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 7:20 PM
>>>To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>>>Subject: Re: [802SEC] Nov 2004 802 Meeting - Some GOOD NEWS !!!
>>>
>>>Thanx Mike,  We were hoping that was the case because in some cases
>>>that is by far the easier configuration to secure, but we'll do our
>>>homework and come up with a best-fit solution for the group
>as a whole
>
>>>and then make sure we have some back-ups just in case.
>>>
>>>Thanx,  Buzz
>>>Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
>>>Boeing - SSG
>>>PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
>>>Seattle, WA  98124-2207
>>>(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
>>>cell: (425) 417-1022
>>>everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Mike Takefman [mailto:tak@cisco.com]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 7:08 PM
>>>To: Rigsbee, Everett O
>>>Cc: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>>>Subject: Re: [802SEC] Nov 2004 802 Meeting - Some GOOD NEWS !!!
>>>
>>>
>>>Buzz,
>>>
>>>with regard to space and networking and speaking only for
>>dot17, all we
>>
>>>would want is a clean, fast path to the internet as we do
>not use many
>
>>>of the server functions that normally get set up and could live
>>>without as we did in portland. I suspect the same is true
>for .1 / .3
>>>but I will let them chime in.
>>>
>>>mike
>>>
>>>Rigsbee, Everett O wrote:
>>>> Carl,  All facilities (our 2 overflow Hotels and the
>>>Convention Center) are within a 3 block radius of the Hyatt Regency
>>>San Antonio, and if you know San Antonio you probably know
>the blocks
>>>there are fairly short.  Walking from any site to any other site
>>>should not be a problem at all.  We are studying the network
>>>provisioning options in detail now to make sure we have an adequate
>>>coverage plan with back-ups.
>>>Proximity-wise we are in far better shape than we were in
>>>Portland, and we are looking at possibly doing our social at
>>>the Alamo which is just across square from the Hyatt and a fun
>>>place to visit.
>>>>
>>>> Keep thinking positive thoughts !!!    :-)
>>>>
>>>> Thanx,  Buzz
>>>> Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
>>>> Boeing - SSG
>>>> PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
>>>> Seattle, WA  98124-2207
>>>> (425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
>>>> cell: (425) 417-1022
>>>> everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Stevenson, Carl R (Carl) [mailto:carlstevenson@agere.com]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 2:21 PM
>>>> To: Rigsbee, Everett O; STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>>>> Subject: RE: [802SEC] Nov 2004 802 Meeting - Some GOOD NEWS !!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Buzz,
>>>>
>>>> How far is this additional meeting space from any projected
>>overflow
>>>> hotels?  I seem to recall that with our projected size the
>>>Hyatt would
>>>> not have enough guest rooms either ...
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org
>>>>>[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Rigsbee,
>>>>>Everett O
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 4:12 PM
>>>>>To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>>>>>Subject: Re: [802SEC] Nov 2004 802 Meeting - Some GOOD NEWS !!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>FYI-  We have just received indication that there is now 40,000
>>>>>sq.ft. of extra meeting space available for us at the San Antonio
>>>>>Convention Center (~2 blocks from Hyatt), which would more
>>than solve
>>
>>>>>our current meeting space shortages. HR San Antonio is working
>>>>>closely with us to secure a favorable deal.
>>>>>
>>>>>So I would say that our expectations for making San Antonio into a
>>>>>workable venue are now better than 90%, but we do have some
>>>>>contractual details to grind through before we get to 100%.
>>>>>
>>>>>We will keep you posted on our progress.  Think positively
>>for a good
>>>>>San Antonio outcome !!!    :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanx,  Buzz
>>>>>Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
>>>>>Boeing - SSG
>>>>>PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
>>>>>Seattle, WA  98124-2207
>>>>>phone:  (425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
>>>>>cell:  (425) 417-1022
>>>>>everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>--
>>>Michael Takefman              tak@cisco.com
>>>Distinguished Engineer,       Cisco Systems
>>>Chair IEEE 802.17 Stds WG
>>>3000 Innovation Dr, Ottawa, Canada, K2K 3E8
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