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Re: [802SEC] [802SEC] [802-11WG] New Document Templates



I agree with Geoff as well.

Arnie greenspan
> 
> From: J Lemon <jlemon@ieee.org>
> Date: 2007/05/21 Mon PM 05:47:04 EDT
> To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] [802SEC] [802-11WG] New Document Templates
> 
> I strongly agree with Geoff on this.
> 
> Geoff Thompson wrote:
> > Paul-
> >
> > I think that this is a bad idea.
> >
> > We should not be putting forth templates that assert that they are
> > imposing a legal obligation unless:
> >         1) The IEEE says that we should (as any SA formulating group
> > should)
> >         2) The template is blessed by SA legal
> >         3) The requirement to do so shows up in a normative governance
> > document
> > To go any other route opens the possibility of a wide divergence of
> > practices in this area and thereby makes for the possibility of abuse.
> > This is no different than allowing different WGs to create their own
> > patent policy notice.
> >
> > I have no objection to a cover template. I have sat through a number
> > of meetings with the TIA IPR group agonizing over the precise wording
> > of just such a thing. It is just that this is not the sort of thing
> > that should be done by a single working group.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Geoff
> >
> > At 03:55 AM 5/21/2007 , Paul Nikolich wrote:
> >> Steve, All,
> >>
> >> I know Dave Ringle (d.ringle@ieee.org) has been working with Stuart
> >> and Roger to modify their IPR template statements.  Contact Dave
> >> Ringle and David Law -- show them what you are currently using and
> >> ask them whether or not it needs modification.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> --Paul
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Shellhammer, Steve" <sshellha@QUALCOMM.COM>
> >> To: <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
> >> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 8:26 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [802SEC] [802-11WG] New Document Templates
> >>
> >>
> >> Paul,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>             I see that 802.11 is changing their document templates based
> >> on the new IEEE IPR policy.  Can you give guidance to me and the other
> >> WG/TAG chairs as to whether we should change our templates?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >>
> >> From: ***** IEEE stds-802-11 List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-11@ieee.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Harry R. Worstell
> >> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 4:12 PM
> >> To: STDS-802-11@listserv.ieee.org
> >> Subject: [802-11WG] New Document Templates
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear IEEE 802.11 Participants,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> This is to inform you that the documentation templates have changed per
> >> IEEE request. The disclaimer and IP policy statement at the bottom of
> >> the templates have been removed until we can obtain clarification on
> >> their correct language. Please stop using your current templates and
> >> replace them with the current ones now on the web site. Also, for your
> >> conveyance, I have included them in this email as attachments.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Harry
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Harry R. Worstell
> >> Principal Member of the Technical Staff - Research
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> >> Vice Chair, IEEE 802.11 Working Group
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