Re: [802SEC] Electronic Participation in Interim Meetings
Bob and Carl,
I am not going to tell you that you are wrong. I believe there is more
advantage to being there in person then participating electronically.
On the other hand, I believe there is more advantage if industry experts
can participate electronically than not at all given they can not attend
the meetings in person for some reason. My thought is to provide a new
alternative that is not as good as being there in person, but brings
additional value to the standards process. Additionally, I wouldn't try
to force this on all WG, but just allow WG to decide for themselves if
it adds value.
Not withstanding that, I think the EC probably needs to take a second
look at this. Having something formal on the books regarding electronic
participation may be a wise idea. Collecting a little data to feed into
that decision probably also is a good idea. Then we should debate the
merits and detriments at the EC. A separate meeting or two at the next
plenary session may be worth while. I will probably raise this at the
P&P review for consideration and debate. Personally, I'm open to
persuasion for and against. But I do think it is worth a good debate.
Mat
Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
Engineering Fellow
BAE Systems - Network Systems (NS)
Office: +1 973.633.6344
Cell: +1 973.229.9520
email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
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From: Bob Heile [mailto:bheile@ieee.org]
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 1:07 PM
To: Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA); STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] Electronic Participation in Interim Meetings
Mat
I am strongly against this. Face to face meetings are the most
conducive to an effective exchange and debate of ideas. Frequent
telecons between meetings lets everyone participate but the meeting
itself should not be compromised. Beyond that it sets a dangerous
precedent for extending that to Task and Working group meetings.
Bob
At 12:54 PM 1/10/2009 -0500, Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA) wrote:
EC Members,
I have received requests from TV Whitespace ECSG members to allow
electronic participation (teleconference / Webex) for the ECSG meetings
at the upcoming Wireless Interim in LA. I have discussed this with the
IEEE 802.11 Chair (Bruce) who has no objection, and made sure that
appropriate facilities are available. I checked with the IEEE 802 chair
(Paul) who said he would permit electronic participation for the ECSG at
the interim if it was conducted as an 'Experiment' (with hypothesis and
metrics) to see if it adds clear value to the standards process.
Accordingly we have formulated a hypothesis and metrics and plan to
conduct three two hour meetings at the wireless interim that include
electronic participation, and will conduct straw polls at the end of the
session to see if the metrics support our hypothesis. We will make the
results of this experiment available to the EC at the March session,
along with other planned outputs from the ECSG.
If you have any questions about this, please feel free to contact me.
Best Regards,
Matthew Sherman
Chair, IEEE802 Whitespace ECSG
BAE Systems - Network Systems (NS)
Office: +1 973.633.6344
Cell: +1 973.229.9520
email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
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