Re: [802SEC] FW: [STDS-WG-CHAIRS] Baseline Operating Procedures for IEEE Standards Working Groups ? Individual Method
Hi Jon,
As it stands today most of the Working Group rules - membership and
balloting are two main examples - are contained in the IEEE 802 Operations
Manual - and some Working Groups chose to supplement them with their own
set of rules - however the Working Group rules in the IEEE 802 Operations
Manual take precedence.
I believe that the approach discussed in March - which I totally support -
was that these Working Group rules in the IEEE 802 Operations Manual will
be split out into a single IEEE 802 Working Group P&P that will meet the
requirements of the AudCom Working Group model P&P. This IEEE 802 Working
Group P&P will then be used by all Working Groups. The Working Group can
then chose to supplement these by a Working Groups operations manual - but
does not have to.
I believe that this approach preserves the situation we have today where
this is one base set of Working Group rules within IEEE 802 and a Working
Group doesn't need to take any action if it is happy to follow these. If
they wish to supplement them with a Working Groups operations manual they
can do so but the Working Group rules in the IEEE 802 level will take
precedence.
This approach also keeps the Working Group P&P review workload low for the
EC - as there will be just one set of IEEE 802 Working Group P&P to review
instead on one from each Working Group. It also reduces the risk if we do
have an AudCom audit as we only need to make sure one set of rules is in
conformance with the AudCom model P&P.
On review of the draft IEEE 802.11 P&P in your email below these seem to be
based on the AudCom P&P and therefore doesn't follow the approach I
described above. I wonder therefore if I have misunderstood what is being
proposed.
Best regards,
David
***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** <STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org> wrote
on 01/04/2009 20:20:28:
> Hi Matthew,
> In an effor to be proactive and get started on this process, 802.11 has
> the following starting point:
> https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/09/11-09-0001-00-0000-802-11-
> policies-procedures.doc
>
> We hope to have our final version ready for approval of the EC at the
July
> Plenary.
> Regards,
> Jon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA)" <matthew.sherman@BAESYSTEMS.COM>
> To: <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 8:12 AM
> Subject: [802SEC] FW: [STDS-WG-CHAIRS] Baseline Operating Procedures for
> IEEE Standards Working Groups ? Individual Method
>
>
> Fellow EC Members:
>
>
>
> So the fun begins! Please see the notice below concerning WG P&P. Some
> groups are further ahead than others in addressing this emerging issue.
> I plan to start some discussion on the EC reflector this weekend on a
> path forward. Right now I favor using the Baseline WG P&P and a base,
> breaking our WG P&P rules out of the LMSC OM (now enforce), and
> augmenting the Baseline WG P&P with the material from the OM where it
> does not conflict. This would then become a global WG P&P for all IEEE
> 802 WG, and it would be up to WG if they want to have an WG OM to
> specify additional rules (or not). By the way, this is probably a good
> time to revisit how WG operate within IEEE 802 and consider any
> revisions we would like.
>
>
>
> I am willing to host teleconferences roughly monthly (consider this
> tentative notice for teleconferences at 11 AM EDT on 5/1, 5/29, and
> 6/26) to discuss WG P&P issue. I don't think we need anything more
> intense that that, and plan to conduct most of the dialogue on the LMSC
> reflector, and at the July Plenary as to a path forward. If it becomes
> too much of a burden on the LMSC reflector, I will break it out as a
> private discussion group (with notice to the reflector so anyone can
> participate) and periodically report to the reflector on recent
> dialogue.
>
>
>
> Please feel free to comment on these plans.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Mat
>
>
>
> Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
> Engineering Fellow
> BAE Systems - Electronics, Intelligence, & Support (EI&S)
> Office: +1 973.633.6344
> Cell: +1 973.229.9520
> email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Yacone, Lisa [mailto:L.Yacone@ieee.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 9:41 AM
> To: STDS-WG-CHAIRS@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: [STDS-WG-CHAIRS] Baseline Operating Procedures for IEEE
> Standards Working Groups ? Individual Method
>
>
>
> The "Baseline Operating Procedures for IEEE Standards Working Groups -
> Individual Method" (WG P&Ps) were approved by the IEEE SA Standards
> Board on 29 January 2009 and become effective 31 March 2009. All
> working groups shall update their P&Ps to conform to this baseline
> document. The IEEE-SA requires that these procedures (Baseline
> Operating Procedures for IEEE Standards Working Groups
> <http://standards.ieee.org/board/aud/WG_PandP.doc> ) be adopted intact,
> with modifications of some clauses allowed as indicated.
>
> Sponsors are expected to ensure that their working groups have P&Ps and
> that these P&Ps conform to the Baseline WG P&Ps. The Sponsor has the
> option of developing one set of P&Ps for all of its working groups.
> Working groups should check with their sponsor chair/standards
> coordinator to confirm how to proceed before beginning this update of
> their P&Ps.
>
> The current active WG P&Ps shall be located on the Sponsor's web site
> <http://standards.ieee.org/board/aud/index.html> . It is the
> responsibility of the Sponsor (see the IEEE-SA Standards Board
> Operations Manual, subclause 5.1.2
> <http://standards.ieee.org/guides/opman/sect5.html/l5.1.2> .) to approve
> the policies and procedures of its working groups involved in the
> technical development work of a standard.
>
> The IEEE SA Standards Board's Audit Committee (AudCom) may request at
> any time to review one of a Sponsor's WG P&Ps and will as a matter of
> routine begin randomly auditing these procedures beginning in June 2010.
>
>
> If you have any questions regarding implementation of the Baseline WG
> P&Ps, please contact the AudCom Chair Ron Petersen at
> r.c.petersen@ieee.org <mailto:r.c.petersen@ieee.org> or the AudCom
> Administrator Lisa Yacone at l.yacone@ieee.org
> <mailto:l.yacone@ieee.org> .
>
>
>
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