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Re: [802SEC] IEEE 802 Plenary Session Sponsors



Steve-
I don't dispute your points or John's.
None the less, my two points stand:

- We need to recognize that we need to define the minimum level of support that grants the "Sponsor Privileges" including a way to do that in advance of the meeting albeit with full recognition that neither 802 or the Sponsor may actually know the Sponsor's outlay when the determination is made. At that point we should know the extent of their commitment though.

- We need to recognize that there are sponsorship opportunities/obligations that can be taken on that don't necessarily involve a cash transfer.

Geoff

On 6/24/13 11:16 AM, Steven B. Carlson wrote:
Geoff-

I second John's comment. As the 802.3 Executive Secretary for the last 8
years (and as someone whose company has hosted 2 interims), I'm very
familiar with the risks. It is frequently not known until the last days of a
meeting if the host is in the red or the black.

I work hard to make sure our hosts are successful as well as providing a
successful meeting to 802.3.

Regards,

Steve


Steven B. Carlson
Chair, IEEE P802.3bp Reduced Twisted Pair Gigabit Ethernet PHY Task Force
http://www.ieee802.org/3/bp/index.html
Executive Secretary, IEEE 802.3 Working Group
  http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/index.html
President
High Speed Design, Inc.
Portland, OR
scarlson@hspdesign.com



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John D'Ambrosia
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 10:49 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] IEEE 802 Plenary Session Sponsors

Geoff,
If we are going to get to this degree - I think we need to also realize that
such instances were there might not be a cost are the result of unexpected
instances - late registrations, people staying off site, etc.

How would you propose addressing such instances since the level of
commitment is not clearly known until all the accounting is done after the
event?  I would speak against this sort of recognition, since it penalizes
hosts who are fortunate to have successful meetings.  The host takes on  a
risk that is always there.

John



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org] On
Behalf Of Geoff Thompson
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 1:42 PM
To: James P. K. Gilb
Cc: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] IEEE 802 Plenary Session Sponsors

James-

Your point is well taken.
Sponsors for interims have often gotten by without actually spending any
money but rather have provided local logistics and have covered the
guarantees needed by the hotel.  The guarantees ultimately cost nothing
(usually).  The big exception of that was when the 802.3 interims were
canceled in September of 2001 and Intel was on the hook.

So we need to:
      - Recognize that there are sponsorship opportunities that don't
necessarily involve a cash transfer
      - Recognize that we need to define the minimum level of support that
grants the "Sponsor Privileges"
          (and whether we want to define more than one level of "Sponsor
Privileges")

Geoff

On 6/24/13 10:02 AM, James P. K. Gilb wrote:
Bob

We should have a minimum contribution in order to get the signs. Can I
sponsor for $100 and get my name put everywhere?  Better still, how
about "Trainwreck Enterprises is sponsoring this meeting" for a cool
$100? :)

I also would think that the EC should be required to approve each
sponsorship opportunities.  That would avoid having to write down a
minimum sponsorship level.

Would there be any sponsor that we would not accept?  It is probably
sufficient to have EC approval to handle this unlikely event.

Otherwise, it sounds good.

James Gilb

On 06/21/2013 04:15 AM, Bob Heile wrote:
All-

Per the action item on the last EC call, this is what I have in mind
for sponsorships

If we want to reduce the deficit on the upcoming Beijing meeting and
similarly at other non US, non NA events, other than raising the
registration fee, we will need to seek sponsorships.  The sponsor's
only duty is to contribute funds that can be used to offset session
expenses.
They have no role in the business of running the session.  In
exchange we acknowledge the sponsor(s) by including their logo and a
thank-you on the web registration area, on banners and signs at the
session as appropriate, and on the badge (assuming there is space in
the case of multiple sponsors).

If we are in the (unlikely) fortunate position of running a surplus
as a result of received sponsorships, I would suggest we return that
surplus to the sponsors on a weighted basis proportional to their
contributions, though this is something we can decide on later.

Please let me know your thoughts and if you have any ideas or
suggestions for sponsors for Beijing, please let me know as soon as
possible.

Regards

Bob




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