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Re: [802SEC] Rules Meeting - Agenda Item Request - Release of Time due to no Tutorials



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I am pretty sure that was an older deadline. We pushed things back for planning. One reason to lock down the tutorial time early is to allow for WGs to update their agendas in advance of the meeting if they end up using the time.

If you really want to know, I can go find out when it happened and why.

James Gilb

On 11/12/19 6:18 PM, Jon Rosdahl wrote:
I am ok to check that the tutorial form is updated.
I do not have an issue with the 30 days, but we ought to know the source of
the 14 days...is it old and no longer relevant, or is it something you and
I are not remembering?
Jon
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On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:34 AM <jdambrosia@gmail.com> wrote:

Jon,

Relative points out of the Chair’s Guidelines –

d) The Executive Secretary schedules the Tutorials and announces the
schedule to the Standards Committee reflector at least 30 days before the
meeting.

f) Schedule is provided on IEEE 802 website with abstracts 15 days before
the meeting.



There is nothing in the Chair’s Guidelines about 14 days, and from above
it looks like the 15 days is to get it posted on the website with the
abstracts, which is not a requirement at the 30 day mark.  It looks to me
like the Tutorial Form needs updated to reflect what is in the Chair’s
Guidelines.



 From a logistics perspective – I would think releasing 30 days in advance
would be better for handling any additional requests by WGs for rooms.



John





*From:* Jon Rosdahl <jrosdahl@ieee.org>
*Sent:* Monday, November 11, 2019 3:28 AM
*To:* John D'Ambrosia <jdambrosia@gmail.com>
*Cc:* STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
*Subject:* Re: [802SEC] Rules Meeting - Agenda Item Request - Release of
Time due to no Tutorials



We discussed the proposed change to the Chair's Guidelines about releasing
times to the WG for Tutorials that are not scheduled.

Note that from our Tutorial Schedule:

*The Final Tutorial Schedule will be posted at http://802world.org/plenary
<http://802world.org/plenary> and http://ieee802.org <http://ieee802.org/>
no less than 14 days in advance of the Plenary Session.*

So times to be "automatically" released to the WG should not occur prior
to 14 days...unless there is no Tutorial then that would be known 30
advance.



Please consider adjustment to the statement.

Regards,

Jon




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Jon Rosdahl                 Engineer, Senior Staff
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cell:   801-376-6435      10871 North 5750 West
                                    Highland, UT 84003


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A Family is necessary to be happy!!





On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:59 AM John DAmbrosia <jdambrosia@gmail.com>
wrote:

James,

I would like to request an agenda item for the rules meeting in Kono (Nov
Plenary) to discuss “Release of Available Time on Tutorial Monday Evenings”



Background:

Per IEEE 802 LMSC Operations Manual

*5.1.1 IEEE 802 LMSC plenary*

The IEEE 802 LMSC plenary session consists of optional IEEE 802 LMSC
plenary meetings, Sponsor meetings, and WG meetings. The plenary session
may also offer tutorial programs. If tutorials are offered on Monday, other
meetings of IEEE 802 LMSC subgroups shall not be scheduled to overlap with
the time of the tutorial programs.



Previously, the EC had voted to release Monday evenings with no tutorial
sessions back to the WGs for their schedule / use.  (See Consent Agenda
Item 4.04, June 5, 2018,
https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/18/ec-18-0101-00-00EC-ec-teleconference-minutes-june-5-2018.pdf).
It is unclear whether this is necessary, however, based on the excerpt
above.



Suggest a chair’s interpretation be added to the Chair’s Guideline that
essentially automatically releases any time not used for tutorials back to
the WG’s for their use, based on announced tutorials 30 days prior to the
plenary, which is the noted in the Chair’s Guidelines in 2.4 Tutorials



Regards



John
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