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[STDS-802-11-CAC] Notes from CAC2 telecon



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Pending Actions:

1.       Edward Au to provide NG60 SG extension justification slide by Thursday CAC

2.       Jonathan Segev to provide NGP SG extension justification slide by Thursday CAC

3.       Edward Au to provide supporting slides for NG60 PAR approval by Thursday CAC

4.       Dorothy to provide report in support of request for conditional approval by Thursday CAC

5.       Jon to bring motion for badge holders to March 802 EC.

 

New Actions:

1.       Adrian to send out second invite to new attendees

2.       Jon to substitute TGak for TGmc on wed pm2 – done

3.       Jon to arrange laptop to sound system link for July 802.11 celebration for use by Vic remotely.

4.       Adrian to update calendar/imat & include TGmc->TGak wed pm2.

5.       Jon to arrange meeting for 802.11 EC Sunday 2pm – done

6.       Adrian to query Kat about presentation material on the new Patent Policy rules.

a.       Adrian to query Patcom chair if he would be willing to make a presentation.

 

 

Detail:

802.11 CAC Preparation document

Last updated: 2015-02-02

1         People

1.1        Present at CAC meeting 1

Osama Aboul-Magd

Rich Kennedy

Peter Ecclesine

Donald Eastlake

Dorothy Stanley

Mark Hamilton

Yongho Seok

Jonathan Segev

Edward Au

Stephen McCann

Clint Chaplin

Jon Rosdahl

Jim Lansford

Marc Emmelmann

Adrian Stephens

1.2        Present at CAC meeting 2

Adrian Stephens

Rich Kennedy

Peter Ecclesine

Yongho Seok

Joseph Levy

Osama Aboul-Magd

Mark Hamilton

Edward Au

Dorothy Stanley

Jonathan Segev

Stephen McCann

Dick Roy

Clint Chaplin

Jon Rosdahl

Donald Eastlake

Marc Emmelmann

1.3        Officers

Group

Position

Person

Will attend Sunday CAC 6:00pm?

Will attend Thu CAC 7:30pm?

Will Attend Fri am plenary?

WG

Chair

Adrian Stephens

 

 

 

WG

Vice Chair

Jon Rosdahl

 

 

 

WG

Vice Chair

Dorothy Stanley

 

 

 

WG

Secretary

Stephen McCann

 

 

 

WG

Tech Editor

Peter Ecclesine

 

 

 

ARC

Chair

Mark Hamilton

 

 

 

PUB

Chair

Stephen McCann

 

 

 

REG

Chair

Rich Kennedy

 

 

 

WNG

Chair

Clint Chaplin

 

 

 

JTC1

Chair

Andrew Myles

 

 

 

TGmc

Chair

Dorothy Stanley

 

 

 

TGah

Chair

Yongho Seok

 

 

 

TGai

Chair

Hiroshi Mano

 

 

 

TGaj

Chair

Xiaoming Peng

 

 

 

TGak

Chair

Donald Eastlake

 

 

 

TGaq

Chair

Stephen McCann

 

 

 

TGax

Chair

Osama Aboul-Magd

 

 

 

NG60 SC

Chair

Edward Au

 

 

 

 

1.3.1        Open positions and calls for nomination

1.3.2        Substitutions at meeting

Jim Lansford for Clint Chaplin, WNG Chair

2         Treasurer

Atlanta budget

Agenda position for Treasurer report – Mon or later? – OK for Monday

3         Projects lifecycle

3.1        New project (Request to form study group)

3.2        PAR deadlines

3.2.1        PAR notified to EC (meeting-30 days)

NG60 notified to EC on 19th Jan 2015.

3.2.2        PAR comments to groups by Tue 6:30pm

3.2.3        PAR comment responses on server and emailed to EC by Wed 6:30pm

3.2.4        PAR to MyProject by submission deadline

3.3        Working Group Letter Ballots

·         REVmc

·         TGah

·         TGaq ongoing

·         TGai

o   Ballot likely in 3-4 days from cac1.

3.4        MDR

3.4.1        Timings

MDR at draft <WG-final>-1

MEC at draft <WG-final>-1

3.4.2        MDR

·         TGah complete

·         TGai pending review meeting

3.5        Entry to Sponsor Ballot

3.5.1        Sponsor Ballot pool formation

SB OM 5.4.2 “Ballot invitations shall remain open for a period of no less than 15 days”.   “.  If a ballot does not open within 6 months of the invitation close date, the ballot group will be considered invalid and the Sponsor shall conduct a new invitation.”

REVmc closed with ~200 voters.

3.5.2        Sponsor ballots

Sponsor recirculation notified to EC?

3.5.3        Completion of Sponsor Ballot

3.5.4        PAR submittal, revision, extension

 

3.6        Comment collections

3.7        Timeline updates

3.8        Rules & Operations Manual

4         IEEE 802 LMSC (EC) approvals needed

4.1        Study group

Second Extension of NG60 – Required to cover activity in May and any responses to NesCom.  Will need a single slide to summarise progress and justify the request.

                Action: Edward Au to provide slide by start of Thursday CAC, for review in CAC.  Slide content doesn’t need WG approval.

First Extension of NGP – will go on consent agenda.  Needs no slides.

4.2        PARS

New

NG60 – needs to provide a few slides for the closing EC to explain/accompany the motion to send the PAR to NesCom.  These slides should be ready before the Thursday CAC,  where they can be reviewed.

                Action: Edward to review slides from Dorothy presented at SG formation & provide to thu cac.

Extension

4.3        Sponsor ballot approval

Conditional approval of REVmc.   TGmc and the WG needs to approve the report to the EC.

Action:  Dorothy product a first draft based on a previous report for conditional approval. - done

4.4        RevCom submittal approval

4.5        Liaison approval

5         802 information related

5.1        802.1CF (Omniran)

Max Riegel will deliver a “status report” to 802.11,  so no need to have an 802.11 liaison.

5.2        802.15

5.3        802.16

5.4        802.18 (Radio Regulatory  TAG)

5.5        802.19 (Coex)

5.6        802.24 (Smart Grid & IoT)

5.7        Anything else

6         External communications

6.1        Liaisons

6.1.1        ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6

Decision made at last JTC1 meeting to notify JTC1/SC6 of the open TGmc sponsor ballot group formation.

Email was sent on 16th January 2015.   No response.

Action: Dorothy check & let Adrian know if not present.  - OK

 

6.1.1.1       Drafts in sponsor ballot that need to be liaised?

6.1.1.2       FDIS ballot comment resolutions to liaise?

6.1.1.3       Standards to seek approval of under PSDO?

6.1.2        WFA

6.1.3        IETF

6.1.4        WBA

6.1.4.1       Incoming Liaison from WBA related to location reports from .11k.

6.1.5        NGMN (Next Generation Mobile Networks)

Liaison approved in Jan session to NGMN.  Sent on 16th Jan.

Waiting now on publication of their white paper for a “full review” in 802.11 before deciding further steps.  Jeorge Hurtarte is the topic owner.  REG SC is the venue. – confirmed.

6.2        Regulatory

Any responses need to be generated in this meeting?

Closing out DSRC tiger team.  Voting on motions on Tuesday in March & bring to WG Wednesday for a vote.

7         Publicity

7.1        Press releases

7.2        Education/tutorials project

PUB SC telecon held to update material from 802.11ax.

Call edited material from .11ax.

Yongho has volunteers to create material for .11ah before March session.

Pending action:  Yongho for TGah.

 

7.3        Website

8         Meeting supplementary information

8.1        Drafts in the IEEE store

·         Request for TGmc D4

·         Request for TGah D4

·         Request for TGai D4

 

8.2        Incoming from IEEE 802

8.3        External to IEEE-SA

8.4        Logistics of next JTC meeting

8.5        IETF

Dorothy:  one request for information related to multicast performance is in the works -> target is ARC.

8.6        ANA

Latest version 27.  Includes TGah and TGai allocations.

9         Meeting logistics

 

9.1        Attendance

9.2        Registration Report by Working Group – as of 2015-01-27

IEEE 802 Plenary Session - March 8-14, 2015

Working Group

Number

 

802.3 

116 -> 271

Detail

802.11 

153 ->290 

Detail

none 

Detail

802.18 

Detail

802.1 

33 

Detail

802.15 

28 

Detail

802.21 

Detail

802.xx 

Detail

802.22 

Detail

802.19 

Detail

Total

347

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jon: ~620 registered at hotel as of cac1.

 

9.3        New attendees

 

Action: Adrian to send second invite/reminder to new attendees.

CAC1 data:

802.1

8

802.11

6

802.3

6

Grand Total

20

 

 

 

Around ~50 new attendees

 

 

9.4        Slot assignments for meeting – review agenda graphic

9.4.1        Which meetings get “extra” slots

Sunday CAC

Monday evening tutorials

Tuesday Editors’

Tuesday evening

Thursday CAC

9.4.2        Review 802.11 agendas

Wed:  release TGmc pm2 – Tgak would like it.

 

9.4.2.1       Monday

9.5        Awards & Recognition

9.6        25th Anniversary

The EC approved the 802.11 par on Thursday July 12th 1990 (Denver, CO). Paul Eastman was chair of 802.4 (Token Bus WG).  The study group phase of 802.11 was performed in 802.4L (1986-1990), as the last act of 802.4 WG.

·         When?

o   Hawaii session in July (Plenary)

·         Where?

o   Mid-session plenary event.

·         Who for?

o   Entire attendance or 802.11 ?

§  Just 802.11 + generous buffer

·         What format?

o   Invite former members/chair to participate?

§  Invite in March for folks to contribute – Action Adrian

§  Point to former presentation

o   Cake

§  Cheap – costco.

o   Special badge holders?

§  $1-2 each

§  Perhaps give to all attendees

§  Ask 802 to sponsor

·         802 Exec Sec says this will be fine.

·         802 Chair indicates that a motion is required

·         Action:  Jon to create motion for EC meeting

o   March meeting

o   Charging bricks

·         Budget?

o   2-3k on mouse pads previously

·         Volunteer roles?

·         Action:  Jon to research a range of giveaway prices/options.

o   Action: Jon to show slide related to 25th Anniversary givaways on Sunday CAC – work in progress.  Deadline ~ -4 weeks.

o   Proposal for review in March CAC.

§  Current plan:  Mousepad and external cellphone battery

·         Invitees?   Ask to waive meeting fee?

o   Possible: meeting fee waiver

o   Reduced hotel room (50%) – but limited numbers

§  Action: Jon to see if staff rate would bear 3 more in 1 day.

o   Vic Hayes – no – going to record a message or use direct video link.

§  Action:  Jon to get AV link from laptop to amplifiers

o   Stuart Kerry – yes,  waived meeting fee => doesn’t count towards attendance

o   Bruce Kraemer – yes

o   Responses from all indicating they would like to come. 

o   On 2015-02-03,  the EC approved a registration meeting fee waiver for these three named individuals.

9.7        Meeting setup

9.7.1        Attendee

Voting member update to meeting planner - done

Voting member update to MyProject – done (is done shortly after each session). 

IMAT setup

Calendar setup

Action:  Adrian & change TGmc/ TGak.

9.7.2        Social/BoF logistics

9.7.3        Future venues

See: http://www.ieee802.org/11/Meetings/Meeting_Plan.html

9.7.4        Time-sensitive meeting-related

Slot plan to meeting planner - done

9.7.5        Check joint meeting on agenda of peer group with chair

 

9.7.5.1       Preparation meetings

9.7.5.1.1      1st CAC (meeting-35 days)

Needs to be early to avoid Easter Monday holidays.

30th March – All fine, Jon absent.

9.7.5.1.2      2nd CAC (meeting-7 days)

4th May.    UK holiday, but Adrian willing to run the meeting.

9.7.5.1.3      Saturday or Sunday prep time

802.11 EC meeting – Sunday 2pm. – Action: Jon to get room without AV cost

9.7.5.1.4      Sunday wireless chairs 4:00pm
9.7.5.1.5      Sunday CAC 6:00pm

 

1.       Liaisons present at meeting:

a.       Wednesday 10:30-12:30

                                                               i.      Ian Sherlock – WFA – not present

                                                             ii.      Dorothy Stanley – IETF – yes 5 mins

                                                            iii.      Dan Harkins – 802c – will be present

 

 

b.      Friday 8:00-12:00

                                                               i.      Rich Kennedy – 802.18 – yes, 5 mins

                                                             ii.      Tim Godfrey – 802.24 – yes, 5 mins

                                                            iii.      Max Riegel – 802.1CF - yes

2.       Juan-Carlos Zuniga – 802 Privacy ECSG

Round table:

1.       Adrian

a.       Check TGaj agenda and any chair substitutions confirmed.

b.      I think we can and should do better with planning to highlight important transitions

c.       For discussion: groups should create a project plan at the “next level of granularity” down using the TGmc plan as a template (either in project or excel) and use this to derive dates for the timeline.

2.       Donald,  want a thu pm2

3.       Mark – please ensure 802.1 agrees with ARC joint meeting – action Jon - done

4.       Stephen:  had 28 newcomers at last meeting.

5.       Jon

a.       Group of ~10 students will be coming on Tuesday only.

6.       Marc – old TGt draft request request.  Adrian is progressing.

 

For CAC2 discussion:

·         Form of debate on DSRC – limited time / limited per speaker

o   Tue REG will discuss report

o   It is not clear that REG SC will bring a motion to the Wed WG

·         TGah discussing “IP” comment 6099 on thu am2 – Adrian will be there

o   Thu am2 session to discuss this comment.

·         Vic Hayes won’t be attending 25th celebration.  Will be present by live video link or recorded message.

 

Round table

1.       Missing PAR snapshot – provide list to Dorothy

2.       802.11 OM.  Two changes in 629r8 (ANA element ID & remove requirement for local document server) & modify telecon notification interval for REG from 10days.

3.       Patent policy in effect from March meeting.  Operating in March under old rules.

4.       Query IEEE-SA about introduction to new Patent rules:   Action Adrian to Ask Kat.

a.       Query PatCom chair to make a presentation

 

 

 

 

Best Regards,

 

Adrian P STEPHENS

 

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