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Re: [STDS-802-11-CAC] Notes from CAC call

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5November 2024 session -
    • Venue is Hyatt Regency Vancouver, Vancouver, British Columbia Canada. Registration is open.
    • Registration totals (Jon Rosdahl)
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    • In-room Webex/video/audio training session planned for Sunday at 14:30 (new time!).
      • If you have had problems, please attend the training session.
      • Will use the Scarlet box as in the past
      • Includes training on Slido, the new polling tool
      • Ask Jon to record the meeting and see if we can make it available.
    • Review agenda graphic for updates (Robert Stacey)
      • From Jon:
        • 802 - Rules Meeting would be Monday night 7:39-9:30pm
        • 802 - History Adhoc would be Monday 6:30-7:30pm -- TBC Tuesday noon to 1pm Confirmed with Paul.
        • 802 - Chairs Office Hours - Thursday 9:00-10:00am11:00am-12:00pm -- TBC confirmed with James.
        • 802 - JTC1 is allocated Tuesday
      • Remove TGbk PM on Thursday
      • See email from Nov 5 for full list of changes and updates.
      • R2 of graphic sent to Robert (and CAC) and is included in the updated WG agenda doc 11-24/1663r1:
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On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 8:08 AM Stacey, Robert <robert.stacey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
--- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Chairs' Advisory Committee Reflector ---

Hello All,

 

Here are my notes form the CAC call.

 

  1. Attendance
    • Jon Rosdahl
    • Bo Sun
    • Nikola Serfimovski
    • Stephen McCann
    • Alfred Asterjadhi
    • Dan Harkins
    • Mike Montemurro
    • Mark Hamilton
    • Marc Emmelmann
    • Laurent Cariou
    • Volker Jungnickel
    • Tony Xiao Han
    • Joseph Levy
    • Jim Lansford
    • Carol Ansley

 

 

  1. IEEE resources on dominance:

 

  1. Announcements
    • WAA has requested time to introduce themselves (time on Mid-week plenary)
    • They are a China-based wireless alliance
    • They also sent a request to establish on-going liaison between 802.11 and WAA

 

  1. September 2024 session and prior follow up (Stephen McCann)
    • Subgroup minutes: Minutes are all in.
    • Webpage updates: New page for AUTO and ELC.
    • Timeline updates: No timeline changes
    • Telecons: Telecons need a timeshift in IMAT. Will do that after this meeting.

 

  1. November 2024 session -
    • Venue is Hyatt Regency Vancouver, Vancouver, British Columbia Canada. Registration is open.
    • Registration totals (Jon Rosdahl)
      • Problem with access. Working on it.
    • In-room Webex/video/audio training session planned for Sunday at 14:30 (new time!).
      • If you have had problems, please attend the training session.
      • Will use the Scarlet box as in the past
      • Includes training on Slido, the new polling tool
      • Ask Jon to record the meeting and see if we can make it available.
    • Review agenda graphic for updates (Robert Stacey)
      • From Jon:
        • 802 - Rules Meeting would be Monday night 7:39-9:30pm
        • 802 - History Adhoc would be Monday 6:30-7:30pm -- TBC with Paul.
        • 802 - Chairs Office Hours - Thursday 9:00-10:00am -- TBC with James.
        • 802 - JTC1 is allocated Tuesday
      • Remove TGbk PM on Thursday
    • Include registration slide in your agenda deck
      • Stephen has sent to CAC reflector.
    • Recent and on-going ballot status
      • P802.11bk/D3.0 initial SA ballot started.
      • P802.11bf/D5.0 completed SA ballot recirc 1
    • Motions for session
      • Dan Harkins. Person motion to consider technical proposal from 11bi.
        • Want a recorded vote. Schedule for Wednesday.
      • Approve IMMW PAR & CSD at Mid-Week plenary
    • Leadership session attendance (substitutions, in-person/remote)
      •  

 

  1. Review NesCom/RevCom/SASB deadlines:
    • October 29, 2024, RevCom and NesCom telecon (18 Sep deadline)
      • REVmf PAR - approved
    • December 9-11, 2024, NesCom/RevCom/SASB (21 Oct deadline)
      • IMMW PAR (pre-posted to get on agenda, first TG meeting in January)
    • January ??, 2025, NesCom/RevCom (Dec deadline)
      •  

 

  1. January 2024 session is in Kobe, Japan
    • Manosan arranging a workshop on the Saturday afternoon ahead of the session.
    • Audience is primarily the local IEEE chapter
    • Presenters and speaker have been arranged
    • Registration is open

 

  1. WNG/new work and university outreach (Jim Lansford)
    • Two presentations

 

  1. IEEE CSCN – input needed from TG chairs (Volker)
    • 25-27 November in Belgrade
    • Volker Jungnickel and Jim Lansford attending
    • Jim hosting AIML panel
    • Volker: provide an overview of 802.11

 

  1. Discussion topic – Sharing strawpoll responses
    • If requested, a strawpoller can get a detailed list of responses to a question
    • List contains attendee name + vote
    • Motivation is to allow strawpoller to follow up with the responders based on their vote
    • Comments:
      • One individual said against ruling from previous chair
      • Share results with everyone not just the person running the poll
    • Stephen: Everyone should see the results
    • Stephen: Strawpoll is being used like a motion
    • Marc: Second Stephen – we have a means of making a decision (a motion)
    • Marc: OK with sharing results
    • Marc: Leave it up to the chair to set the agenda using info from the strawpolls and other information. Prioritize the motions with lots of support.
    • Mike: OM – strawpoll is non-binding. Group needs education on this.
    • Mike: Good to schedule motions; people are prepared.
    • Mike: REVme strawpolls: sometime we recorded individual votes and sometimes not.
    • Alfred: No restrictions on running motions; anyone can bring one and it will be added to the agenda.
    • Alfred: Experimented with releasing results to everyone but there were privacy concerns.
    • Alfred: In f2f, you can see how someone is voting. Looking for similar info from electronic tools.
    • Joseph: Rely on Robert’s rules. Distinct rules on how motions and strawpolls are used.
    • Joseph: Now we are debating strawpolls. Must stop this. Debate motions but not strawpolls.
    • Laurent: Does not look like there is much objection to sharing strawpoll results.
    • Laurent: There is no requirement that you shall not run a motion unless it passes strawpoll.
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  1. Round table and AOB
    • Alfred: people having issues with Slido. Can we use tools other that Slido?
    • Jon: Operation should be the same across the WG. (opposed to using other tools)
    • Jon: Identify the issues with Webex and Slido and fix them.

 

  1. Action items
    •  

 

  1. Adjourn

Next meeting is on Sunday, November 10, 2024 at 18:00 PST

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