Re: [STDS-802-11-EDITORS] Using color in amendments

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Hello Volker,

I am interested in opinions on what the published amendment; how we identify changes against the baseline.

How we develop and ballot our drafts is a separate issue.

Regarding Track Changes: As technical editors, we should not be using this to track changes against the baseline. We should manually identify changes to the baseline: using underline and strikethrough font (with or without color). Track Changes in Word has its uses: I find it useful to show editing instructions in a proposed change to the draft. It makes it easy to develop changes and make sure you capture all the changes. Or to make edits on the fly during discussion. But once that gets incorporated in the draft itself it should be shown with manual font changes.

-Robert

From: Jungnickel, Volker <volker.jungnickel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 7:26 AM
To: Stacey, Robert <robert.stacey@xxxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-EDITORS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: AW: [STDS-802-11-EDITORS] Using color in amendments

Dear Robert,

I have seen in multi-author projects in MS Word using the “tack changes” functionality that the changes appear in different colors. It seems to depend on the person who opens the document, i.e .the underlined changes will not appear exactly in the colors you suggested. If we agree to fix these colors, this implies a burden to the Technical Editor to change the colors into the desired ones.

Best regards – Volker

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Hi Edward,

This would be done by the publication editors.

We could discuss separately whether we do the same thing during draft development.

-Robert

From: Edward Au <edward.ks.au@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 7:20 AM
To: Stacey, Robert <robert.stacey@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-EDITORS] Using color in amendments

Hi Robert,

While the intention is good especially for the readers to read, it may create a lot of overhead to Editors who are preparing the draft as they need to keep changing colors when they insert, delete, or change texts.

Regards,
Edward

On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 10:16 AM Stacey, Robert <robert.stacey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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Hello Editors,

I’m soliciting input on the use of color in the published amendments. Essentially it would make published amendments look somewhat like the redline draft:

On “Change” instructions,

inserted text would be blue and underlined
deleted text would be red with strickthrough

Editing instructions would be a different color, too.

If printed in black and white, the amendment would look much like it does today, although the color might come out as a shade of gray.

See attached examples.

Other groups are using this. For consistency, we would start with the 11ax draft (1^st amendment to 802.11-2020).

Let me know whether or not you are in favor.

Regards,

-Robert

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