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[STDS-802-11-TGAI] modp group question



Hi Dan:

RFC 3526 specifies a number of MODP groups Zp, but does not seem to specify the order q of the prime-order subgroup G of Zp\{0} to be used with DH. The RFC document does not mention what the presumed cryptographic bit strength of any of these discrete log groups is. Do you know where the q-values in RFC 3526 are defined?

This topic came up, since 802.11ai/D0.4 refers to the IANA DLP groups as allowed groups for FILS authentication.

For specification purposes, one needs to know
a) presumed cryptographic bit strength;
b) value of order q of prime order subgroup.
The value of q is required for use of DSS with the groups in question (since signatures have size roughly 2*bit-size(q)). The presume bit-strength would help in specifying which hash functions are supposed to be used of "matching" security strength.

IANA DLP groups #14-#17 ("huge" discrete log groups):
#14 - 2048-bit DLP group (256=2*128 octets);
#15 - 3072-bit DLP group (384=3*128 octets);
#16 - 4096-bit DLP group (512=4*128 octets);
#17 - 6144-bit DLP group (768=6*128 octets);
#18 - 8192-bit DLP group (1024=8*128 octets).

Best regards, Rene

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