Re: [STDS-802-11-TGAK] Some comments on 15/151r0, Power Save
Based on other thoughts and discussion, I continue to think that it is
fairly easy to have IBSS STAs support GLK. But, since they don't have
AIDs and can't use SYNRA, we would just have to say that they must
always use serial unicast for data MPDUs intended for more than one
receiver.
Thanks,
Donald
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On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Well, if there is no way to do SYNRA for GLK IBSS then, it seems to
> me, that GLK IBSS STAs must be prohibited from sending an MSDUs in
> MPDUs with group addressed RAs. Otherwise you can get loops.
>
> Thanks,
> Donald
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> Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
> 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA
> d3e3e3@xxxxxxxxx
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>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Venkatesan, Ganesh
> <ganesh.venkatesan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hello Donald:
>>
>>>> but I don't see any reason for that. All GLK STAs are required to be able to receive SYNRA. How does it hurt to optionally allow GLK IBSS STAs to send SYNRA the way GLK APs can optionally send SYNRA?
>>
>> [GV] I thought SYNRA does not work in IBSS since there is no notion of association in a IBSS and hence AIDs. SYNRA is built using AIDs.
>>
>> Cheers --
>> ganesh
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Donald Eastlake [mailto:d3e3e3@xxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 2:24 PM
>> To: STDS-802-11-TGAK@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGAK] Some comments on 15/151r0, Power Save
>>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> Sorry I'm not there.
>>
>> Just some quick comments on 11-15/0151r0:
>>
>> Normative text looks good as far as it goes.
>>
>> On the other related changes, sure, adding a little motivational text to 4.3.23.1 is probably good. And I haven't looked at mesh but it must internally solve these problems already without the SYNRA mechanism.
>> But, for IBSS, I don't see any reason to prohibit using SYNRA. GLK IBSS can't use group addressed RAs, as it does now, unless it has SYNRA, because SYNRA is needed for loop suppression. The only alternative would be to require GLK IBSS to always use serial unicast
>> - but I don't see any reason for that. All GLK STAs are required to be able to receive SYNRA. How does it hurt to optionally allow GLK IBSS STAs to send SYNRA the way GLK APs can optionally send SYNRA?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Donald
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>> Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
>> 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA d3e3e3@xxxxxxxxx
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