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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGAK] LLDP considerations for 802.11 (GLK)

Hi Mark,

Yes, that is what I mean.

thx,

huizhao

From: Mark Hamilton <mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx>
To: 'Huizhao Wang' <h_z_w@xxxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-TGAK@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 8:03 AM
Subject: RE: [STDS-802-11-TGAK] LLDP considerations for 802.11 (GLK)

Huizhao,
 
I assume you mean setting the MAC Bridge bit should be based on whether the bridge function is implemented or not, correct?
 
And, the MAC Access Point bit is set based on whether this is an AP or non-AP device.
 
Finally, we have no need for a GLK bit, agreed?
 
Mark


From: Huizhao Wang [mailto:h_z_w@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 5:47 PM
To: Mark Hamilton; STDS-802-11-TGAK@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGAK] LLDP considerations for 802.11 (GLK)
 
GLk is just one way MAC bridge is implemented, whether setting the bit or not, should be based on whether the bridge function is implemented or not though
From:"Mark Hamilton" <mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx>
Date:Thu, May 21, 2015 at 12:29 PM
Subject:Re: [STDS-802-11-TGAK] LLDP considerations for 802.11 (GLK)
This is a bitmap, I believe, so can’t it have both WLAN Access Point and MAC Bridge set at the same time, and that implies it is a GLK-capable AP.  (There would be no way to distinguish the specific case of a GLK-capable AP that has the “GLK Required” mode set, but I don’t think that level of detail is needed here.)
 
Mark
 
From: Philippe Klein [mailto:philippe@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGAK@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGAK] LLDP considerations for 802.11 (GLK)
 
I exactly meant that. That GLK & non-GLK will not be discriminated by the system capabilities word.
The question though is what system capability a GLK-STA should use?
Mark suggested that a  GLK STA is a MAC Bridge and this makes sense but what about the AP as there is already an entry for WLAN access Point and is GLK capable?  
To be consistent with the GLK STA the system capability must be MAC Bridge too but in the same time the AP could concurrently be a AP for non GLK STAs so what is the System Capabilities word in this case ?
 
Thx /Ph
 
 
From: Norman Finn (nfinn) [mailto:nfinn@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 09:44 PM
To: Philippe Klein; STDS-802-11-TGAK@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGAK] LLDP considerations for 802.11 (GLK)
 
There are only 32 bits in the System capabilities word.  I think that distinguishing between GLK and non-GLK is too detailed to be reflected in a word intended to distinguish among bridges, end stations, routers, etc.  But, perhaps that’s not what you meant.
 
— Norm
 
From: Philippe Klein <philippe@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: Philippe Klein <philippe@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 at 16:03 PM
To: "STDS-802-11-TGAK@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <STDS-802-11-TGAK@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGAK] LLDP considerations for 802.11 (GLK)
 
Hi Don,
 
Please see the message below from the 802.1AB-Rev Editors.  Table 8-4—System capabilities (page 32) includes an entry for “WLAN Access Point” [4] and I guess a new entry for STA GLK will be needed as well.
(The discrimination between a GLK and non-GLK capable AP could probably be done by querying the referenced 802.11 MIB isn’t ? )
Could you please have a look and contact either John or Tony ?
 
Thank you /Philippe
 
 
From: John Messenger [mailto:jmessenger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 10:46 PM
To: Philippe Klein; Adrian.p.stephens@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: Glenn Parsons (glenn.parsons@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
Subject: LLDP considerations for 802.11
 
Hi,
 
Could you alert the 802.11 people to the existence of the 802.1AB-Rev project? There is text in 802.1AB which refers to outdated names for 802.11 architectural components.  This would be an opportunity to modernise these and potentially add entries for newer 802.11 components.  Please see http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/ab-rev-drafts/d0/802-1ab-rev-d0-1.pdf
 
Regards,
                -- John
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