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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGAX] TGax CRC Teleconference 2020-04-30



> https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/20/11-20-0538-10-00ax-tgax-crc-teleconference-march-july-2020-teleconference-agendas.pptx
> The agenda is on slide # 53. The CIDs ready for motions are on slide #54.

OK, so these are:

> 11-20/0646 -- 24047, 24049, 24050, 24052, 24053, 24213, 24255, 24256, 24547
> 11-20/0540 -- 24522

As regards the latter, and as I have discussed with Youhan, I do not believe the
proposed change to the NOTE goes in the right direction.  The issue raised in
the comment is that the D6.0 NOTE says that the CH_BANDWIDTH is not the PPDU
width, but doesn't say which TXVECTOR parameter does indicate the PPDU width.

Instead, the resolution in CID 20/0540r2 replaces the NOTE:

NOTE—The TXVECTOR parameter CH_BANDWIDTH does not represent the channel width of the
transmitted PPDU.

with:

NOTE-The setting of the CH_BANDWIDTH parameter is determined by the triggering frame.
See 26.5.2.3.3 and 26.5.2.3.4.

However, to me this is going in the wrong direction, because (a) it does not
address the issue raised in the comment (about where the channel width of the
transmitted PPDU is represented), (b) it makes a statement that could
be made about lots of other parameters (many other TXVECTOR parameters for
HE TB PPDUs come from the triggering frame) and (c) it loses the caveat pointed
out by the NOTE in D6.0.

I understand that Youhan would like to have that sentence because he thinks that
information was not obvious to many readers in previous LBs.  I am fine with that
(clearly different people will have different opinions about what is obvious,
and so we should err on the side of verbosity), but to address (a) and (c) above,
the NOTE should then be:

NOTE-The setting of the CH_BANDWIDTH parameter is determined by the triggering frame
(see 26.5.2.3.3 and 26.5.2.3.4).  The CH_BANDWIDTH parameter does not represent the
channel width of the PPDU.  The channel width of the PPDU is represented in the
RU_ALLOCATION parameter.

[The discussion in 20/0540r2 talks of "“bandwidth”" but neither the text in D6.0
nor the comment talk of "bandwidth", they talk of "channel width of the transmitted
PPDU".]

Thanks,

Mark
 

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On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 at 20:20, Osama Aboul-Magd <oamagd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I’ve uploaded the agenda for the Teleconference. It is available at:

 

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/20/11-20-0538-10-00ax-tgax-crc-teleconference-march-july-2020-teleconference-agendas.pptx

 

The agenda is on slide # 53. The CIDs ready for motions are on slide #54.

 

I deferred CID 24552 (11-20/317) and CIDs in docs 11-20/529, 11-20/0376, and 11-18/0218 since it seems more discussion is needed. Let me know if off-line discussions have helped come to agreement.

 

The Webex info is:

 

Join Webex Meeting https://ieee802.my.webex.com/ieee802.my/j.php?MTID=m608e1ae2a3025354dde9cd75eb0c0ed5

 

Meeting number: 790 641 184

Meeting password: wireless

Join by phone: +1-510-338-9438 USA Toll +44-20-3198-8144 UK Toll Access code: 790 641 184

 

Regards;

Osama.

 

 

From: "*** 802.11 TGax - HEW - High Efficiency WLAN ***" <STDS-802-11-TGAX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Osama AboulMagd <Osama.AboulMagd@xxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: Osama AboulMagd <Osama.AboulMagd@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 4:43 PM
To: <STDS-802-11-TGAX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGAX] TGax CRC Teleconference 2020-04-30

 

Hello All,

 

TGax CRC has a conference call scheduled for Thursday April 30 @ 20:00 ET; for 3 hours.

 

Please let me know if you plan a submission. I’ll send an agenda and webex information later.

 

Teleconferences are bound by the conditions stipulated by the documentation below. Please review them and bring up any questions/concerns you may have before proceeding with the teleconference

 

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Regards;

Osama.

 


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