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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGAX] TGax CRC Teleconference 2020-07-30



Hello Mark,

My alternative proposed resolution on CID 24209 is not ready yet.   As per the discussion during the CRC call on Tuesday, I will prepare a resolution based on your inputs and initiate an email discussion.   Hopefully, I would start the email discussion either tomorrow or during the weekend.

Regards,
Edward

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:06 AM Mark Rison <m.rison@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I have uploaded a tentative agenda for the teleconference tomorrow. It is available at:

> https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/20/11-20-0538-54-00ax-tgax-crc-teleconference-march-july-2020-teleconference-agendas.pptx

 

I will try to get some beauty sleep tonight, so I will probably not attend.

Here are my comments for the agenda items:

 

- I have prepared https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/20/11-20-1158-00-00ax-resolutions-for-some-comments-on-11ax-d6-0-sb1.docx

to resolve the three comments assigned to me.  I can present when we next have

a teleconf in European working hours (I think Thu 6 Aug?)

 

- Re today's motions, I have the attached comments on 20/1129.  I do not think it is ready for motion.

 

- Re today's discussions, I have the following comments on 20/0665 for CID 24209:

 

CF2G4n6G

An AP that operates in the 2.4 GHz band and that is in the same co-located AP set as one or more 6 GHz APs

26.17.2.4 (Out of band discovery of a 6 GHz BSS)

(CFHT2G4 or CFHE2G4):O

 

CFHE6G:M

Yes o No o

N/A o

CF5Gn6G

An AP that operates in the 5 GHz band and that is in the same co-located AP set as one or more 6 GHz APs

26.17.2.4 (Out of band discovery of a 6 GHz BSS)

(CFHT5G or CFHE5G):O

 

CFHE6G:M

Yes o No o

N/A o

 

The requirement, as stated, is on "An AP that operates in the 2.4 GHz band".  So the

selector should be just "CFAP AND (CFHT2G4 OR CFHE2G4):O"; nothing about 6G.

 

If you want you could create another selector, e.g.:

 

CFcolocated6GAP

 

An AP that operates in the 2.4, 5 or 6 GHz band and which is one

of the co-located APs in a set that includes a 2.4 GHz or 5 GHz AP
and a 6 GHz AP

 

CFAP AND (CFHT2G4 OR CFHE2G4):O

CFAP AND (CFHT5G OR CFHE5G):O

CFAP AND CFHE6G:O

 

and either delete the above, or make them e.g.

 

CFcolocated6GAP AND (CFHT2G4 OR CFHE2G4):O

CFcolocated6GAP AND (CFHT5G OR CFHE5G):O

 

with a new row for

 

An AP that operates in the 6 GHz band and that is in the same co-located AP set as one or more 2.4 GHz or 5 GHz APs

 

being

 

CFcolocated6GAP AND CFHE6G:O

     

but this all starts looking a bit circular.

 

[BTW, do the 2.4 GHz/5 GHz APs have to be HT APs?  Or will ERP/OFDM or

even DSSS/CCK APs do, here?  Should "HT " be added before the "AP that

operates" in the descriptions above?]

 

- Re 20/1142 for CID 24019, I suggest the following text (which I think Abhi is happy with):

 

A non-AP HE STA shall determine the total number of eligible RA-RUs in a contiguous set of RA-RUs from the Number Of RA-RU subfield (see Figure 9-64f (RA-RU Information subfield format)) in the User Info field corresponding to an eligible RA-RU, excluding RA-RUs that are not within its operating bandwidth.

 

(Maybe it should be "that are not entirely within", to account for

RUs that span a 20M boundary?)

 

- Re 20/1123 for CID 24207, might "shall meet at least one of" be

better than "shall meet either one of", which might suggest you must

not meet both?

 

Thanks,

 

Mark

 

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From: *** 802.11 TGax - HEW - High Efficiency WLAN *** <STDS-802-11-TGAX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Osama Aboul-Magd
Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:43
To: STDS-802-11-TGAX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGAX] TGax CRC Teleconference 2020-07-30

 

I have uploaded a tentative agenda for the teleconference tomorrow. It is available at:

 

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/20/11-20-0538-54-00ax-tgax-crc-teleconference-march-july-2020-teleconference-agendas.pptx

 

Please let me know if you plan a submission.

 

Regards;

Osama.

 

From: "*** 802.11 TGax - HEW - High Efficiency WLAN ***" <STDS-802-11-TGAX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Osama AboulMagd <Osama.AboulMagd@xxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: Osama AboulMagd <Osama.AboulMagd@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 2:22 PM
To: <STDS-802-11-TGAX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGAX] TGax CRC Teleconference 2020-07-30

 

Hello All,

 

TGax CRC has a conference call scheduled for Thursday July 30 @ 20:00 ET; for 3 hours.

 

Please let me know if you plan a submission to be added to the list. I’ll upload an agenda later.

 

Webex info: https://ieeesa.webex.com/ieeesa/j.php?MTID=m03379e62dbec9f142aa671336be2b0b9

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Regards;

Osama.

 


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