Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBC] discussion on PICS for eBCS termination notice

[Stephen McCann <mccann.stephen@xxxxxxxxx>]

Xiaofei, Morioka-san,

                                     I think further updates to the PICs are minor, so let's conclude this discussion during the next TGbc call next week.

I've uploaded a new revision of the document as <https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/20/11-20-1695-02-00bc-pics-text-proposal.doc>

Kind regards

Stephen

On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 at 01:13, Xiaofei Wang <Xiaofei.Wang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks Morioka-san, that sounds good to me.


Best regards,

Xiaofei Clement Wang
Principal Engineer | InterDigital
T: (631) 622.4028
E:  Xiaofei.wang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: Hitoshi MORIOKA <hmorioka@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 20:36
To: Xiaofei Wang <Xiaofei.Wang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: STDS-802-11-TGBC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBC] discussion on PICS for eBCS termination notice

Hi Xiaofei,

If we separate receive-only STA from normal STA, it may be better to define CFSTAxxx for receive-only STA.
This change can be made in the next round.

Best Regards,

—
Hitoshi MORIOKA
SRC Software Inc.
hmorioka@xxxxxxxxxxxx




> 2020/10/29 0:06、Xiaofei Wang <Xiaofei.Wang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>のメール:
>
> Hi Morioka-San,
>
> Thanks for the reply. Yes, receive-only STAs would indeed be a separate case. But they are also clearly a separate class of devices. If they are lumped together with all non-AP STAs, indeed that will make all transmissions optional. Though I am not sure that is a good approach, i.e., to use a blanket statement for all non-AP STAs because a subset of the non-AP STAs cannot transmit? In my humble opinion, we should be a bit more precise than that.
>
> I wonder whether we can make Termination Notice procedure, and other transmission related procedures, conditional mandatory, for example,  on the condition that non-AP STAs can transmit?
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Xiaofei Clement Wang
> Principal Engineer | InterDigital
> T: (631) 622.4028
> E:  Xiaofei.wang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hitoshi MORIOKA <hmorioka@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 07:20
> To: Xiaofei Wang <Xiaofei.Wang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: STDS-802-11-TGBC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Stephen McCann
> <mccann.stephen@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: discussion on PICS for eBCS termination notice
>
> Hi Xiaofei,
>
> I think we should consider receiver only non-AP STA.
> So any transmission from non-AP STA should be optional.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> —
> Hitoshi MORIOKA
> SRC Software Inc.
> hmorioka@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
>> 2020/10/28 0:48、Xiaofei Wang <Xiaofei.Wang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>のメール:
>>
>> Dear Stephen & Morioka San,
>>
>> I have been thinking about the PICS for eBCS termination notice. I think we may want to change the procedure to be mandatory for non-AP STA and optional for APs. The reason being that an AP may choose to implement it if it desires power saving, however, a STA needs to implement it in case it receives the termination notice, it needs to react to prevent the eBCS from stopping. What do you think?
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Xiaofei Clement Wang
>> Principal Engineer | InterDigital
>> T: (631) 622.4028
>> E:  Xiaofei.wang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
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