Hi Antonio,
I would have to disagree with your suggestion below. Even if AP just forwards/relays the higher layer data without appending it, it is still EBCS. It is not a capability that has been supported in the past specially for non-associated STAs.
Regards,
-bahar
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Hi,
what I do not understand is what is the difference between this sentence "Further, EBCS provides a service in which an EBCS AP can deliver a higher-layer payload
received from an EBCS non-AP STA to a destination specified by the STA." and what a non-EBCS AP does. I think the differentiating part is the embedding of information. If it is not done, this is not EBCS in my opinion.
What about:
Further, EBCS provides a service in which an EBCS AP can deliver a higher-layer payload received from an EBCS non-AP STA to a destination specified by the
STA after appending additional information to the payload.
Thanks
Antonio
El lun, 11 ene 2021 a las 20:47, Wullert, John R II (<jwullert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>) escribió:
Folks,
I would suggest a bit of clarification in the second sentence:
"Further, EBCS provides a service in which an EBCS AP can deliver a higher-layer payload received from an EBCS non-AP STA to a destination specified by the STA. The EBCS AP can append additional information to the payload prior to delivering it to the destination if requested by the STA and supported by the AP."
John
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Hello Abhi,
Thanks for this.
I think "deliver" is more neutral than "relay".
I think we could avoid the reference to frames.
I think "the contents of the higher layer payload" is waffle.
I suggest something like
"Further, EBCS provides a service in which an EBCS AP can deliver a higher layer payload received from a EBCS non-AP STA to a destination specified by the STA. The EBCS AP can append additional information if requested by the STA and supported by the AP."Thanks,
Mark
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Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBC] Text on UL use case in clause 4.3.100
Hi All,
Thank you for the discussion during today’s TGbc session.
With respect to the text related to uplink use case in Morioka-san’s document, I think we could simply the two sentences as follows:.
“Further, EBCS provides a service in which an EBCS AP can relay the contents of the higher layer payload, received from a EBCS non-AP STA, to a destination specified in the frame transmitted by the STA. The relaying EBCS AP can append additional information if requested by the transmitting STA and supported by the AP.”
I have incorporated the comments I heard during the call – including:
- Using the term relay instead of forwarding
- Tie the actions to an EBCS service
- Refer to the contents of the payload
- Specifically the higher layer payload carried in the frame
- Stayed away from making reference to the actual frame or the field(s) in the frame
Could you please let me know if you have additional suggestions?
Regards,
Abhi
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