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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] Revision 9 // Re: Compendium of straw polls and potential changes to SFD posted (20/0566r0)

Hello Sharan,

Acknowledged.  The update will be appeared in revision 10 after I incorporate the straw poll results of the MAC ad-hoc call today.

Regards,
Edward

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 1:00 PM Sharan Naribole <n.sharan@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello Edward,

 

Thanks for your effort! The correct version of DCN 226 is r5. I updated a word in this SP in r4 before running in yesterday’s call. I kindly request you to update document accordingly.

 

Do you support the addition of the following text to TGbe SFD?

·        A non-AP MLD may update its ability to perform simultaneous transmission and reception on a pair of setup links after multi-link setup.

o   This update for any pair of setup links can be announced by non-AP MLD on any enabled link.

NOTE – Specific signaling for update indication is TBD

NOTE - Limitations on dynamic updating is TBD

[20/0226r4 (MLO Constraint Indication and Operating Mode, Sharan Naribole, Samsung), SP#1, Y/N/A/No answer: 43/7/29/19]

 

Thanks,

Sharan

 

From: Edward Au [mailto:edward.ks.au@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 9:13 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] Revision 9 // Re: Compendium of straw polls and potential changes to SFD posted (20/0566r0)

 

Hello Alfred and all,

 

Revision 9 is posted:

 

The update includes:
[1] the straw poll results of the PHY and MAC ad-hoc calls on April 23, 2020, and

[2] potential text changes in sections 2.3.3, 2.4.3, and 6.2 according to the passed straw polls.  

 

Regards,
Edward

 

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 4:32 PM Alfred Asterjadhi <asterjadhi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks Edward for posting the revised version of the compendium document.

 

Best Regards,

 

Alfred

 

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 6:39 AM Edward Au <edward.ks.au@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello,

 

Revision 8 is posted at:

 

The update includes:
[1] the straw poll results of the PHY and MAC ad-hoc calls on April 20, 2020, and

[2] the results of two PHY-related straw polls conducted in the January 2020 interim meeting (http://www.ieee802.org/11/email/stds-802-11-tgbe/msg00778.html)

[3]  potential text changes in sections 2.4.1 and 2.5 according to the passed straw polls.    

 

Regards,
Edward

 

 

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 2:02 PM Edward Au <edward.ks.au@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello,

 

Revision 7 is posted at:

 

This revision incorporates the straw polls conducted in the April 17th MAC ad-hoc call and the potential changes to Section 6.5 of the SFD.   Note that there is no SP conducted in the April 16th Joint call.

 

Have a good weekend,

Edward

 

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:26 AM Edward Au <edward.ks.au@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

This revision changes the highlight of the passed straw polls from grey to yellow, and add an unique tag "SP" to each of the passed straw polls, according to page 41 of the agenda slide deck https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/20/11-20-0425-25-00be-2020-mar-may-tgbe-teleconference-agendas.docx. 

Regards,
Edward

 

 

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 9:30 PM Wook Bong Lee <wookbong.lee@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks Edward.

 

From: Edward Au [mailto:edward.ks.au@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:59 PM
To: Wook Bong Lee <wookbong.lee@xxxxxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Revision 5 // Re: Compendium of straw polls and potential changes to SFD posted (20/0566r0)

 

Hi Wook Bong,

 

Thanks for your review on the draft meeting minutes and the document.

 

I've posted revision 5 that updates the SP#3 of 20/0020r3 and the potential change to section 2.4.3:

 

Regards,
Edward

 

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 4:21 PM Wook Bong Lee <wookbong.lee@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks Tianyu.

 

From: tianyu@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:tianyu@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:13 PM
To: Wook Bong Lee <wookbong.lee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Edward Au <edward.ks.au@xxxxxxxxx>; Sigurd Schelstraete <sschelstraete@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] Revision 4 // Re: Compendium of straw polls and potential changes to SFD posted (20/0566r0)

 

Hi Wook Bong, 

 

Nice catch, I will update the minutes. 

 

Thanks.

Tianyu

 

 

On Apr 14, 2020, at 1:10 PM, Wook Bong Lee <wookbong.lee@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

Hi Tianyu, Sigurd, and Edward,

 

Thank you for your effort.

There is one thing needs to be fixed.

During SP#7 in PHY, there was request to change “and” to “and/or” as in below discussion.

Can you update the SP text accordingly?

 

SP#7: SP3 from 0020r3

•       Do you agree that 11be STA can recognize the full preamble puncturing pattern it needs by using the BW field and puncturing information of U-SIG and EHT-SIG field in Multiple user transmission?

–      Details for how to convey the puncturing information is TBD.

 

 

Discussion for SP:

C: Comment to remove “full”. STA only need its own information not the full information of all STAs.

A: Ok. Updated SP text.  

C: Does it exclude any other options?

A: This is general concept. Other than U-SIG and EHT-SIG we do not have plan.

C: Does this also include SU?

A: No, only for MU. SU case already run.

C: Change and to “and/or”.

C: “11be STA” do you mean only intended 11be STA or any 11be STA that received the PPDU?

A: We don’t think we need to differentiate the cases here.

C: The question is if a STA don’t know where is the primary channel, can they find out the puncture pattern?

A: Need further discussion.

 

Best regards,

Wook Bong Lee

 

From: Edward Au [mailto:edward.ks.au@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 12:53 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] Revision 4 // Re: Compendium of straw polls and potential changes to SFD posted (20/0566r0)

 

Hello,

 

Revision 4 is posted at:

 

This revision incorporates the straw polls conducted in the PHY ad-hoc on April 13.  Potential changes to sections 2.2.1, 2.4.2, 2.4.3 and 2.5 based on the passed straw polls are included.  Note that there is no straw poll in the MAC ad-hoc on April 13.

 

Regards,

Edward

 

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 7:14 PM Edward Au <edward.ks.au@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello,

 

Revision 3 is posted at:

 

This latest version incorporates the straw polls conducted in the PHY ad-hoc on April 9.  There is no straw poll conducted during the MAC ad-hoc on April 9.   Potential changes to section 2.4.2 based on the passed straw polls are included.

 

Have a great weekend,

Edward

 

On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 5:22 PM Edward Au <edward.ks.au@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello all,

 

Revision 2 is posted at:

 

This latest version incorporates the straw polls conducted in the PHY ad-hoc on April 6.  There is no straw poll conducted during the MAC ad-hoc on April 6.

 

Regards,
Edward

 

 

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 9:45 PM Edward Au <edward.ks.au@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Alfred and all,

 

Revision 1 is based that incorporates the straw poll results of the MAC ad-hoc call on March 30, and the joint call on April 2. Sections 6.5 and 9.4 are updated accordingly.

 

 

Regards,
Edward

 

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 12:42 PM Edward Au <edward.ks.au@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Alfred and all,

 

I've posted an initial version of the document that summarizes all the straw poll results (between January 30 and March 30, except the MAC ad-hoc call on March 30), and potential changes to the latest version of the Specification Framework Document (19/1262r8):

 

 

Suggestions are welcome.

 

Regards,

Edward



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