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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] about A3 reused for ML address(672R2)



Jay,

 

I believe WDS was removed from 802.11 in 2016.

 

However, there are other uses of “four address format”.  In particular, for mesh (does 11be anticipate being used for mesh, I haven’t seen much (if any) discussion about how these concepts map to mesh structures) and for GLK (11ak).  It would be good to make sure the four-address frame format is considered in these addressing discussions.

 

All that said, I think the intent of the proposal, as I understood it, was to effectively say that where in the current spec we have the AP’s address/BSSID, for these frame types that field would contain the MLD MAC address, rather than an affiliated AP’s MAC address.  If we apply that consistently, I think it probably works.

 

Mark

 

From: Yang, Zhijie (NSB - CN/Shanghai) <zhijie.yang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 9:20 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] about A3 reused for ML address(672R2)

 

Hi Yongho, Arbi,

 

I see you propose to reuse A3 for ML address on Group addressed frame, and individual mgmt. frame. I think it still need more discussion before we make such decision, see my explanation below.

 

@Yongho Seok,  As you know, WDS uses 4-address to indicate the RA/TA/DA/SA, and RA is not equal to DA, TA is not equal to SA as well.

I’m afraid your SP will cause WDS link not works although it is passed. That’s why I said it will bring other issues in the meeting.

BTW, I understand the A3 used to indicate DA in SPEC, not SA, could you double confirm it?

 

 

I make the following example to illustrate  this:

 

AP1 (WIFI MAC: 72:11:22:33:00:88)and AP2 (MAC: 6a:47:d0:2f:e1:db)set up WDS link, and then we set up two sessions in higher layer, and DA can be used to distinguish the two session. AP1 sends these group addressed pkts to AP2. (We Convert grouped address pkt to unicast pkt in this case, so it’s shown with unicast RA). The sniffer log graph shown as below:

In this case, it’s not correct to reuse A3 for ML MAC address.

 

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@Abhishek Patil, I don’t have the enough time to check individual mgmt. frame,  could you help double confirm it?  I understand only data frame use 4-MAC address for WDS link, but not very sure on this.

 

Thanks

 

Best Regards

 

Jay Yang

 


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