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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe CR submission



Hi Xiangxin,

I agree that there is some inefficiency to change power management mode (active/PS) or power state (awake/doze) of STA(s) on the other link(s) with the current spec. More efficient way is to define a cross-link power save indication so that a frame transmitted on one link can indicate change of power management mode or power state of the STA(s) on the other link(s). I have a comment submitted on that so will share the resolution once it's ready.

Thanks,
Minyoung

On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 10:18 PM 顾祥新 (Xiangxin Gu) <Xiangxin.Gu@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Minyoung,

 

On this topic, I’d like to elaborate my question in the Tele Conf.

 

Let’s have a scenario as the following.

A single radio non-AP MLD with 2 affiliated STA 1 and STA 2 setups link 1 and 2 respectively with an AP MLD. Both STA 1 and STA 2 support 2x2 MIMO.

The non-AP MLD supports EMLSR mode and has enabled EMLSR mode on link 1 and link 2.

STA 1 is awake with an announcement frame sent to its AP to announce its awake. STA 2 is in doze.

 

Now the non-AP MLD wants to have both STA 1 and STA 2 awake and listen and CCA on both link 1 and link 2. It should switch the single radio to STA 2 and send an announcement frame. So a duration of transition delay is needed. However, there may be a risk for STA 1 to miss a PPDU from its AP, which starts in the transition delay.

 

BR,

 

Xiangxin Gu

Communication Standards Devision

 

 

From: Minyoung Park <mpark.ieee@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 2:22 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe CR submission

 

Hi Gaurang,

 

Sure, I can defer that CID. We can have a separate discussion on that.

 

Regards,

Minyoung

 

On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 11:00 AM Gaurang Naik <gnaik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Minyoung,

 

Could you please defer the resolution for CID 12812?

 

I don't agree with the proposed resolution. The behavior for EMLSR was agreed after considerable discussions and looking at several use cases. Now it seems like we are doing case-by-case optimization, which significantly adds to the complexity at the AP without much gains.

 

Thanks,

Gaurang

 

From: Minyoung Park <mpark.ieee@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 5:52 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe CR submission

 

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Hi Alfred,

 

Please add 11-22/1181r0 to the MAC queue (will be ready to review on 1st week of August). The CR doc resolves 31 comments.

 

Thanks,

Minyoung

 

On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 4:39 PM Yanjun Sun <yanjuns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Alfred,

 

Could you help add 22/1177r0 (CR on 35.2.2, 15 CIDs) to the join queue? I’ll upload the document soon.

 

Thanks

Yanjun

 

From: Rajat PUSHKARNA <rajat.pushkarna@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 6:59 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe CR submission

 

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Hi Alfred,

 

Could you please help to add CR document 22/1165r0 resolving comments related to Annex-B to the Joint queue? The document can be found at: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/22/11-22-1165-00-00be-lb266-cr-document-resolving-comments-related-to-annex-b.docx

 

Thanks.

 

Best Regards,

Rajat.

 

From: Yanyi Ding <yanyi.ding@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, 22 July 2022 9:54 am
To: STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe CR submission

 

Hi Alfred,

 

Could you please add the following CR to the joint queue? Thanks.

 

13-Jul-2022 ET

2022

1120

0

TGbe

LB266 CR for CIDs of 4.3.16a

Yanyi Ding (Panasonic)

19-Jul-2022 22:10:34 ET

Download

 

Best regards,

Yanyi

From: Yanjun Sun <yanjuns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 1:58 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe CR submission

 

Hi Alfred and all,

 

Could you help add the following CR to the joint queue?

1124

1

TGbe

LB266 CR for 9.3.1.22 MISC

Download

 

I’ve revised the resolution based on inputs from Greg, Dibakar, Liwen and Ross. Based on Srini’s inputs, I’ve also added some discussion text on the context.

 

 

Thanks

Yanjun

 

 

From: 李雅璞(Yapu) <00001b0ec2563bd4-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 1:40 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe PHY CR submission

 

Hi, Alfred

 

Could you add the following document to the PHY queue?

 

20-Jul-2022 ET

2022

1169

0

TGbe

LB266-CR-on-CID 12138-12139-12140

Yapu Li (OPPO)

20-Jul-2022 04:28:05 ET

Download

 

Thanks

Yapu

 

发件人: Yan(MSI) Zhang <yan.zhang_5@xxxxxxx>
发送时间: 2022719 2:55
收件人: STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
主题: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe PHY CR submission

 

Hi Alfred, Siguard, Tianyu,

 

  Can you add the following documents to the PHY queue?

 

18-Jul-2022 ET

2022

1163

0

TGbe

11be lb266 CR for clause 36.3.14 Packet Extension

Yan Zhang (NXP)

 

18-Jul-2022 ET

2022

1164

0

TGbe

11be lb266 CR for Clause 36.3.11 Mathematical description of signals

Yan Zhang (NXP)

 

Thanks

Yan

 

From: humengshi <0000179fd8c5ace5-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 5:49 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [EXT] [STDS-802-11-TGBE] 答复: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe PHY ad-hoc Session -Monday PM2- Cancellation Notice

 

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Hi Alfred,

 

Could you add the following documents to the PHY queue?

11-Jul-2022 ET

2022

1063

0

TGbe

LB266 CR for 36.3.16 Transmit Requirements

Mengshi Hu (Huawei)

12-Jul-2022 08:37:40 ET

DownloadRevise

11-Jul-2022 ET

2022

1064

0

TGbe

LB266 CR for 9.4.2.313.5 EHT PPE Thresholds Field

Mengshi Hu (Huawei)

12-Jul-2022 08:38:18 ET

DownloadRevise

11-Jul-2022 ET

2022

1076

0

TGbe

LB266 CR for 36.2.2 RU_ALLOCATION

Mengshi Hu (Huawei)

12-Jul-2022 08:38:44 ET

DownloadRevise

 

Best regards,

Mengshi Hu

 

发件人: Kanke Wu <kankew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
发送时间: 2022712 12:48
收件人:
STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
主题: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe PHY ad-hoc Session -Monday PM2- Cancellation Notice

 

Hi Alfred,

 

Can you add the following document to the PHY queue?

 

11-Jul-2022 ET

2022

1080

0

TGbe

LB266 CR on EHT PHY Introduction-1

Kanke Wu (Qualcomm)

12-Jul-2022 00:44:59 ET

Download

 

Thanks,

Kanke

 

 

From: Alfred Asterjadhi <asterjadhi@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 6:48 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe PHY ad-hoc Session -Monday PM2- Cancellation Notice

 

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Hello all,

 

PHY ad-hoc has finished processing the CR queue and hence Monday PHY PM2 session is cancelled. 


Please let us know if you have any submissions to be added to the PHY queue. 

 

Regards,


Alfred

 

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Alfred Asterjadhi, PhD

IEEE802.11 TGbe Chair,

Qualcomm Technologies Inc.

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