Thread Links Date Links
Thread Prev Thread Next Thread Index Date Prev Date Next Date Index

Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] Updated May F2F Agenda Uploaded

Hi Dibakar,

 

I have read your document and strongly disagree with your resolutions for those 2 comments:

 

16287

35.17

653.54

The sentence says that the QoS Characteristics element, when direct link or uplink, shall not contain the Intra-Access Category Priority Element. This is detrimental to QoS, as an EHT STA is no longer able to apply (802.11aa) alternate queuing compared to legacy STA. EHT STA is less efficient as legacy STA.

Please modify the sentence by allowing use of  Intra-Access Category Priority Element for Direct-link or Uplink. The use of such element has no impact for AP scheduling, but large impact on STAs if no longer allowed (by keeping alternate queueing, the STA can also indicate to its AP that it uses a dedicated classification for an UL or direct link stream).

Reject.

 

The commenter failed to identify the value of such  signaling information to AP. 

16288

35.17

653.54

It seems the sentence "QoS Characteristics element, when direct link or uplink, shall not contain the Intra-Access Category Priority Element" makes the Alternate AC queueing deprecated for EHT. EHT STAs have less QoS support than legacy STAs. This has to be explicitly said.

It is mandated to clarify this point : Either it is deprecated or not (if not, provide the reasoning of such limitation of having no Intra Access Category element, by example by a Note).

Reject.

 

The legacy STAs use Intra-AC Priority element for influencing DL scheduling at the AP. That behavior is not deprecated.

 

 

The sentence says the Intra-access category is not present for direct-link or uplink (when content is provided by the station).

By cid 16288, you answer the behavior is not changed for DL : that is true for DL, but the comment is about UL and direct link !

 

So, the behavior is that an EHT STA can no longer use Intra-access category for UL and direct-link. Why ?

With that, QoS for EHT is less efficient than legacy stations.

 

Regards,

Pascal

 

From: Das, Dibakar <dibakar.das@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: lundi 15 mai 2023 05:13
To: STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] Updated May F2F Agenda Uploaded

 

BEWARE: This email originated outside of our organization. DO NOT CLICK links or attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
Please report all suspicious emails to the ISS department as an attachment.

 

Hi Alfred,

 

Please add the following CR document to MAC queue:

11-23-609-00-00be-CR-SCS-related-CIDs.docx (~40 CIDs)

 

Regards,

Dibakar

 

From: Alfred Asterjadhi <asterjadhi@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2023 1:19 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] Updated May F2F Agenda Uploaded

 

Hello all,

 

I uploaded a revised version of the agenda. It contains the most up to date queues for all ad-hocs. 

Please take a look and let me know if I missed any requests.

 

Regards,

 

Alfred

 

--

Alfred Asterjadhi, PhD

IEEE802.11 TGbe Chair,

Qualcomm Technologies Inc.

Cell #:    +1 858 263 9445

Office #: +1 858 658 5302

To unsubscribe from the STDS-802-11-TGBE list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=STDS-802-11-TGBE&A=1

To unsubscribe from the STDS-802-11-TGBE list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=STDS-802-11-TGBE&A=1

To unsubscribe from the STDS-802-11-TGBE list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=STDS-802-11-TGBE&A=1