Could I ask the proponents of pre-association identification to succinctly
describe one or more specific use cases where this would be useful, please?
(Or point me at certain slides in a submission, if this has already
been done.)
Thanks,
Mark
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From: Mark Hamilton <mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, 15 July 2022 13:45
To: STDS-802-11-TGBH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBH] Mishandled TGbh motion vote
All,
I have made a large mistake, and I apologize to the group.
I failed to properly save the results of the voting on our motion in Thursday’s TGbh session: “In order to meet the PAR, the TGbh Amendment shall include a scheme or schemes that address
the pre-association use cases 4.1 and 4.2 in Document 21/332r37”. As a result, while we have the raw vote results (15-14-5, “procedural” voting rules, meaning a 50% passing threshold, so that count results in “Passed”):
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Those results cannot be verified. As the vote was so close, clearly if there were any voting irregularities, it could affect the result.
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The vote was requested to be a recorded vote, but the detail records are lost, and I don’t believe there is any way to get that information.
At this point, there seems to be nothing I can do, but to apologize to the group and the mover and seconder. Thus, my sincere apologies.
All that said, I would like to remind everyone that even if this motion’s results were properly recorded in detail, those results show that the group is clearly split on this topic. Our
work cannot proceed until we find a consensus with support by at least 75% of the members on our technical decisions related to this (and other) technical topics. I strongly suggest that proponents and opponents on these topics PLEASE take some actions to
help the group progress.
I strongly encourage discussion, either off-line with individuals that have expressed interest or an opinion to understand each other’s’ opinions, or on the reflector to pull in all the
interested members and work toward a broad consensus. A reminder, once again, we need to find a consensus for our work to progress, so when decisions reach an apparent impasse, it is very important to dig in more deeply to understand the root of the disagreement,
and try to find compromise.
Thanks. And, again apologies for the process error!
Mark
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