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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBH] Updated CC41 resolution sheet



All,

 

Yes, Graham and I have a re-write for this.  And like Jay stated I was a bit confused to see that this was already done by Jay.

I’m assuming this is with regards to CR-3??

 

Graham and I have worked on some replacement text, along similar lines with your submission.  Additionally
12.2.11 will need to be expanded a great deal to deal with the use cases and states I am addressing in my submission 1218. 

I’d like for you to review this prior to next week’s meeting. 

 

Jay, I can send you the text we have developed if you want to review prior to my submission.

 

 

 

Kurt Lumbatis

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From: mark.hamilton2152 <mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2022 11:53 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBH] Updated CC41 resolution sheet

 

 

Hi, Jay. 

 

I agree, that if Graham and Kurt are working on this same text (which is news to me, but I will confirm with them), then I think it makes the most sense to just let them take this proposal as input to their larger rewrite.  Let's see how their proposal turns out, and see if you (and the task group) accept their changes. If their proposal is not accepted, then we can revert to yours, and finalize the editor instructions then. 

 

Mark

 

-------- Original message --------

From: "Yang, Zhijie (NSB - CN/Shanghai)" <zhijie.yang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: 8/5/22 6:07 PM (GMT-07:00)

Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBH] Updated CC41 resolution sheet

 

Hi Mark,

 

I feel some disorder.

According the Carol’s explanation, I need some update on the editor’s instruction in my contribution. But Graham and Kurt would like to re-write this section, if so, seems nothing to do on my side.

What about keeping current editor’s instruction and  Graham can address it in his later contribution?

 

Thanks

 

Best Regards

 

Jay Yang

 

From: G Smith <gsmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 202286 0:19
To: STDS-802-11-TGBH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBH] Updated CC41 resolution sheet

 

I worked with Kurt to re-write this section., splitting into first time association and subsequent associations.  Hence it is a major re-write, I think it would be prudent to see what the re-write is and then make changes to that. 

 

Kurt, when will you post?

 

 

Graham

From: Carol Ansley <carol@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2022 11:31 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBH] Updated CC41 resolution sheet

 

As editor, I would always rather be able to work from specific instructions in the CID response than to try to find items discussed by email.

 

Regards,

Carol

 

From: Yang, Zhijie (NSB - CN/Shanghai) <zhijie.yang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 9:13 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <STDS-802-11-TGBH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBH] Updated CC41 resolution sheet

Hi Mark,

 

I’m fine with your proposal.

Need I update such proposal to the new revision  and then we can have a quick talk on it during the motion?

Or the editor can handle with it?

 

Thanks

 

Best Regards

 

Jay Yang

 

From: mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx <mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 202285 7:47
To: Yang, Zhijie (NSB - CN/Shanghai) <zhijie.yang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-TGBH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [STDS-802-11-TGBH] Updated CC41 resolution sheet

 

Jay,

 

Thank you for checking these.

 

I agree with you, I missed that we now have 4 paragraphs replacing the one big one in 12.2.11.  Good catch.

 

Further, now that I look at this again, I would suggest we put your new sentence as the first sentence (and paragraph) of those four.  So we first introduce that a non-AP STA may reuse the identifier by sending to the AP, and then we break out the three ways that is done for the different situations.  What do you think?

 

Mark

 

From: Yang, Zhijie (NSB - CN/Shanghai) <zhijie.yang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2022 4:52 PM
To: mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx; STDS-802-11-TGBH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [STDS-802-11-TGBH] Updated CC41 resolution sheet

 

Hi Mark,

 

I have checked the proposed change in the latest spreadsheet, I guess there is an editorial issue when I read the following Editor’s instruction.

The last sentences covers the above three cases(FILS, FT, and "other cases"), which is already agreed by the group in the last plenary meeting. And thus the proposed change(last sentence) shall be put in a separated paragraph, right? If so, we need update the editor’s instruction to say “Note to Editor: This includes replacing the last sentence in a separated paragraph, and also breaking the text into three paragraphs (for FILS, FT, and "other cases").”

@Carol, What’s your opinion?

 

The resolution on other CIDs  are correct.

 

3

Jay Yang

"When using FILS authentication, the non-AP STA sends the identifier", need to clarify the identifier here,
like the latest one received from BSS or ESS.

Technical

19

12.2.11

19

as the comments

Jay Yang

 

Ready for motion

11-22/1082

Revised

Make the changes shown in 11-22/1082r3 under "Proposed text".  Note to Editor: This includes replacing the last sentence, and also breaking the text into three paragraphs (for FILS, FT, and "other cases").

 

 

 

Thanks

 

Best Regards

 

Jay Yang

 

From: Mark Hamilton <mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 202283 1:20
To: STDS-802-11-TGBH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBH] Updated CC41 resolution sheet

 

All,

 

I have updated and cleaned up the CC41 comment resolution spreadsheet, here: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/22/11-22-0973-06-00bh-cc41-comments-against-d0-2.xlsx

 

A few notes, including ones that need to be checked/confirmed by the group:

  • The ones that are marked in green, and say “Ready for motion” in the Status column, will be put to a motion with the resolution as recorded in the Resn Type and Resolution Text columns.  At this time, no motions on teleconferences have been scheduled, so unless something changes, the plan would be to motion all of these at the September meeting.  I need to coordinate with Carol (our Editor) on our process, however, and be sure we are supporting her appropriately.
  • The ones in yellow, with “Review” in the Status column, need some quick action before they are formally Ready for motion.
  • Jay/Okan, as authors of 11-22/1082, please confirm that I translated the resolutions for CIDs in that document into the actual Resolution Text, correctly.
    • To all, in the future, I’m going to try to do these updates in real-time on the call, so there is no chance for my error to creep in.  If anyone has a concern with how I’ve captured our agreement that the 11-22/1082 were resolved, please let me know.
  • On CID 55, I noted that the phrase that this comment references actually occurs two times in that paragraph.  I suggest we just replace them both, but I will confirm that with the group on our call next week.

 

The above can be quickly double-checked on the next teleconference.

 

Thanks, all.  This is progress!

 

Mark


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