Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Seamless roaming PoC discussion

[Binita Gupta <bingupta.ieee@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Duncan, Jarkko, all,

I think roaming subtopics as suggested by Duncan seems very logical and reasonable partition into subtopics.

I think splitting architecture/framework and security as two subtopics does makes sense. The architecture would cover the overall roaming architecture & framework and security is a separate subtopic that would focus mainly on security aspects of roaming. Sure, there are some related aspects and PoCs+TTTs would collaborate to align on concepts/directions etc following the TGbn guidelines laid out in the guidelines doc 24/1682.

On Discovery and Preparation - these are two different steps as proposed by many earlier roaming presentations. Discovery would select one or more candidate APs and then preparation is to prepare the selected AP(s) in advance, to later execute the roaming. Also, to avoid confusion, since the 'Roaming' subtopic refers to final roaming execution, I suggest renaming it to 'Roaming execution'.

Overall, I concur with Duncan that roaming is a big topic and to make faster progress it does make sense to divide up the subtopics among PoCs, to get things done in parallel. The PDTs that are produced by POCs+TTTs will be shared with this entire TTT group for review and commenting, so all TTT members are able to contribute and influence the PDTs.   

I look forward to collaborating with you all on roaming!

Thanks,

Binita

On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 11:24 AM Jarkko Kneckt <00000d5619618f4f-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Duncan and all,

As discussed in the 802.11bn call this morning, the PoC assignments are open for the roaming subtopics. 

I would like to volunteer for PoC of the discovery subtopic. 

Pooya would like to volunteer for PoC of the data plane.

I have questions on the subgroup topics:

- Architecture and security are related topics. Would a single PoC be better? How work is split between 2 PoCs? 

- The discovery and preparation select the AP for roaming. Can you please clarify the differences of these subtopics.

- What does the roaming subtopic mean? This name is not very descriptive. All of these subtopics are related to roaming

Cheers,

Jarkko 

On Oct 17, 2024, at 10:46 AM, Duncan Ho <00002b3e54cff3e2-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Dear all,

 

Per the suggestion in the contribution 24/1698 (TGbn D0.1 Spec Text Volunteers and Status) from Ross, the PoC candidates should exchange email in advance trying to converge on subtopic split and PoC assignment. That’s why I started an email thread with the PoC candidates but didn’t include TTT members. I didn’t think TTT members were interested in PoC discussion since they would have signed up for PoC if they were interested in being a PoC.

 

Anyways, since some TTT members indicated in the 11bn meeting earlier today that they were also interested in the PoC discussion, I’ve now added all the TTT members to this thread for further discussion.

 

As I mentioned on the call, seamless roaming is a big topic and it could be broken down into sub-topics as multiple contributions have identified these different subtopics and phases of seamless roaming. Here’s my attempt to create the subtopics and split those amongst different PoCs. I believe Yelin, Binita, Giovanni, Po-kai and Jay are OK with the following split. I know that Guogang has some different opinions and Mike mentioned he has an upcoming contribution about architecture and requirements. Please let me know if you have any feedback.

 

Architecture/framework - Duncan

Security - Mike

Discovery – Yelin

Preparation – Giovanni/Binita

Roaming – Binita/Giovanni

Context transfer - Po-Kai

FT enhancements – Guogang

Data plane UL/DL delivery – Jay

 

I acknowledge that there are still a lot of technical discussion and agreements to be made but based on all the contributions and discussions so far, I expect what we ended up with would not deviate too much from the above subtopics. Whatever technical decision will have to pass Motion first (regardless of who the PoCs are) and that’s where the technical discussion should take place. As such, I would appreciate if we can focus on the split and subtopics and not to be derailed by any attempt of technical discussion in this thread. 

 

BR,

Duncan

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