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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Motions List for December 19th



Hi Alfred,

I'll continue my presentation on 11-24/1834 and Q&A in the 12/9 TGbn PHY call. Attached are 4 SPs intended to be run after my presentation and to be included in the 12/19 motion list assuming the SPs get majority support. Could you please add the SPs to the motion list? Thanks.

Regards,
Alice Chen
Qualcomm


On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 2:55 PM Shengquan Hu <000036fc915e2c29-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Alfred,

 

  Please also add the following SPs, to be run on Dec 9th meeting, and to the PHY motion list assuming the SPs passed

 

  1. Do you agree to include the following text to the 11bn SFD?

·       LDPC is the only coding mode for COBF.

Supporting doc: 11-24/1829r1

 

  1. Do you agree to include the following text to the 11bn SFD?

·       1-bit indication in the per-user SIG field to resolve the BSS color for COBF transmissions.

       The coding bit is re-purposed for this indication

Supporting doc: 11-24/1829r1, 11-24/1822r3

 

Thanks,

Shengquan

 

 

From: Sameer Vermani <000039a3734fa32e-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2024 11:11 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Motions List for December 19th

 

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Hi Alfred,

 

Please also add the following SPs, to be run on Dec 9th and assuming they get super-majority, to the list of PHY motions  (all the below from the supporting document 11-24/1822r3)

 

  1. Do you agree to add the following to the 11bn SFD:
    • For the COBF case, the information in the NDPA for the responding AP has a unified design for joint-NDP based sounding as well as cross-BSS section of sequential sounding.
  1. Do you agree to add the following to the 11bn SFD:
    • The spatial config field in the user-SIG field of COBF PPDUs in UHR will re-use the same design as in UHR DL MU-MIMO.
      • Encoding table will be same as 11ax
  1. Do you agree to add the following to the 11bn SFD:
    • For a COBF PPDU, all the user-fields in UHR-SIG belonging to an AP and the corresponding spatial streams are contiguous.
      • The user fields of one AP are together followed by the ones of the other AP and the same holds for spatial streams

 

Regards,

Sameer

 

 

From: Ron Porat <000009a0da80e877-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2024 6:37 PM
To:
STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Motions List for December 19th

 

Hi Alfred,

 

Please add the following SP, to be run Dec. 9 and assuming they pass,  to the list of PHY motions:

 

Do you agree to add to the 11bn SFD?

  • The first 16 entries of the 5 bit MCS table (MCS0 to MCS15) are identical to 11be

 Supporting documents: [24/1826r1]

 

 

Do you agree to add to the 11bn SFD?

  • In the 5bit MCS table

MCS17 signals QPSK rate 2/3

MCS19 signals 16QAM rate 2/3

MCS20 signals 16QAM rate 5/6

MCS23 signals 256QAM rate 2/3

 Supporting documents: [24/1826r1]

 

 

Thanks,

Ron

 

 

From: Yujian (Ross Yu) <00001792b51ef4ea-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2024 3:59 PM
To:
STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBN]
答复: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Motions List for December 19th

 

Hi Alfred,

 

Please help add the following to the TGbn PHY motion list, thanks:

 

Move to include the following into the 11bn SFD?

  • The UEQM patterns indication for NSS=2, 3 and 4 are as follows:

NSS=2

Index

1st ss

2nd SS

0

M

M-1

1

M

M-2

2-3

Reserved

NSS=3

Index

1st ss

2nd SS

3rd SS

0

M

M

M-1

1

M

M

M-2

2

M

M-1

M-2

3

Reserved

NSS=4

Index

1st ss

2nd SS

3rd SS

4th SS

0

M

M

M

M-1

1

M

M

M

M-2

2

M

M

M-1

M-2

3

M

M-1

M-1

M-2

  • Note: reserved entries will be further categorized as Validate or Disregard, following principles in 11be

Supporting documents: [24/1772]

Result: pass with no objections

 

 

Regards

Ross Jian Yu 于健

Huawei Technologies

 

发件人: Fang, Juan <juan.fang@xxxxxxxxx>
发送时间: 2024126 2:11
收件人:
STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
主题: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Motions List for December 19th

 

Hi Alfred,

 

Please help add the following to the TGbn PHY motion list:

 

Motion 1: Move to include the following text to the 11bn SFD (DCN# 12-24/1381r2, DCN# 11-24/1840r0):

Keep other fields except the disregard bits in Common field for non-OFDMA transmission in UHR-SIG to be the same as that in common field for non-OFDMA transmission in EHT-SIG as following.

 

B0-B3

B4-B5

B6-B8

B9

B10-B11

B12

B13-B15

B16-B18

Spatial Reuse

GI+LTF Size

Number of UHR-LTF Symbols

LDPC Extra Symbol Segment

Pre-FEC padding Factor

PE Disambiguity

Disregard

Number of non-OFDMA Users

 

Result: no objection

 

Motion 2: Move to include the following text to the 11bn SFD (DCN# 12-24/1381r2):

Keep the Common field format of UHR-SIG for OFDMA transmission adheres to the Table 36-33 of 11be D7.0

Note: The entries defined for OFDMA + MU-MIMO in RU Allocation table may be updated

 

Common field for OFDMA transmission

B0-B3

B4-B5

B6-B8

B9

B10-B11

B12

B13-B16

B17-B16+9N

B17+9N-B20+9N

B21+9N-B26+9N

B27+9N-B26+9N+9M

B27+9N+9M-B30+9N+9M

B31+9N+9M-B36+9N+9M

Spatial Reuse

GI+LTF Size

Number of UHR-LTF Symbols

LDPC Extra Symbol Segment

Pre-FEC padding Factor

PE Disambiguity

Disregard

RU Allocation-A

CRC

Tail

RU Allocation-B

CRC

Tail

 

Result: no objection

 

 

Thanks,

Juan

From: Alfred Asterjadhi <asterjadhi@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2024 3:00 PM
To:
STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Motions List for December 19th

 

Hello all,

 

This is a gentle reminder to send me (including the reflector) an e-mail with a list of candidate motions for December 19th. The deadline for these requests is Decemeber 7th. 

 

I am providing below the announcement i made during yesterday's Joint Telco:

·         We have motions scheduled during the Joint telco of December 19th, 2024.

§  We need to get WG approval and send a 10-day advanced notice for the motions that we plan to run during that session.

§  To meet this requirement and align with our MO, I need by Dec 7th, 2024:

·         Members that have SPs with “super majority” positive opinion (75+%) to send me the text of that SP so that I can add to the motion list

·         Members that have SPs that are queued to be ran before/during December 19th, 2024, to send me the text of that SP so that I can add to the motion list

·         If the SP shows “super majority” (75+%) positive opinion prior to the scheduled motion, then we keep the corresponding motion and update the note below the motion with the SP result

·         If the SP does not show “super majority” positive opinion prior to the scheduled motion or is not ran, then we will remove the corresponding motion from the motion list.

·         Note: Text changes to the motion text during this 10-day period is fine as long as it does not lead to major technical changes to the motion.

§  Per procedure, other motions are allowed to be requested as well provided that they are sent by Dec 7th, 2024, and they are approved by the WG chair.

 

Regards,

 

AA

 

--

Alfred Asterjadhi, PhD

IEEE802.11 TGbe/TGbn Chair,

Qualcomm Technologies Inc.

Cell #:    +1 858 263 9445

Office #: +1 858 658 5302


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