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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] PDT-MAC-NPCA

Hello Matthew and all,

Thank you for updating the PDT.

Recently, I have been revising the MIB and would like to ask your opinion. 

Below is the MIB I drafted for NPCA. Would you prefer to use this version or do you have any suggestions for modifications?


dot11NPCAOptionImplemented OBJECT-TYPE

SYNTAX TruthValue

MAX-ACCESS read-only

STATUS current

DESCRIPTION

"This is a capability variable.

Its value is determined by device capabilities.

This attribute, when true, indicates that the station implementation is

capable of supporting NPCA operation."

DEFVAL { false }

::= { TBD }


BR，

Li Quan



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From: MatthewFischer <matthew.fischer@xxxxxxxxx>
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
Date: 2024年12月19日 07:10
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] PDT-MAC-NPCA

r12 is now on the server:


John Wullert,

Generally agree with both of your comments, r12 includes changes that generally follow the spirit of those comments. 


Haorui,

1. - agree, changed to multiple BSS in r12
2. the commas in the cited item in r11 are in the correct locations

note that as long as conjunctions are used, no comma should appear as those conjunctions are adding/modifying the single, albeit long, qualifying phrase
i.e. the entire phrase beginning with "identified" and ending with "received PPDU(s)" is a single qualifying phrase referring to the subject "channel" that appears at the very beginning
the predicate for channel is "does not overlap", making everything in between is a single qualifying phrase, which must be set aside by commas

so the structure of the sentence is:

the channel, identified by some means, does not overlap something

"identified by some means" is then expanded into that big long multiply-qualifying phrase
the commas serve to separate the qualifier from the subject and the predicate
this is because the natural English order is:

adjectival phrase subject predicate object

In the cited sentence, when the order of adjectival phrase and subject is reversed, commas are used to separate the adjectival phrase

subject, adjectival phrase, predicate object


3. agree, removed "/or"


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On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 11:01 PM Haorui Yang(Rae) <yanghaorui0217@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Math,

Thanks for your efforts on updating the draft over and over.

I have the below comments further:
1. MBSS in baseline = mesh BSS so in this PDT the MBSS should be changed to multiple BSS set, or other better wording;

2. for b)-c, the highlighted comma seems in a wrong place. Maybe it should be after "CH_BANDWIDTH_IN_NON_HT of the received PPDU(s)";
"c.the 20/40/80/160 MHz channel occupied by the received PPDU(s), identified by the STA based on the channel allocations in the corresponding band and the PPDU bandwidth that is signaled in the received PPDU(s) or obtained from the RXVECTOR parameter CH_BANDWIDTH_IN_NON_HT of the received PPDU(s) and the channel occupied by the received PPDU(s), does not overlap with the NPCA primary channel"

3. based on Motion #164, only receiving the CTS without RTS cannot trigger NPCA switch, but in current bullet b) "and/or" means 3 possible cases including the case where only the response frame is received, which seems against the Motion.

b)the STA received a PPDU containing a Control frame and/or a PPDU containing a initial response frame of a Control frame exchange on the BSS primary channel and all of the following conditions apply:


BRs,

Haorui Yang(Rae)

China Mobile
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