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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] PDT-MAC-M-AP-COORDINATED-FRAMEWORK



Hi Arik,

 

Thanks for providing updates after the call in r3, and for the great work on this!

 

Some additional comments from my side:

 

On the subclause structure:

I do not think that the ‘split’ in level 37.7.x (Common and Particular) is particularly needed (the split would be quite clear even without these as ‘separators’), but if majority prefers to keep it I can live with it.

 

Reference text 1

This section subclause details all the procedures that are common procedures applicable to for all the coordination schemes:

  • The Multi-AP Coordination Discovery procedure is defined in 37.7.1.2
  • The Multi-AP Coordination agreement negotiation procedure is defined in 37.7.1.3
  • The AP ID assignment procedure is defined in 37.7.1.4

Comments 1:

  • Please list 37.7.1.4
  • Check space everywhere in the doc. “Multi -AP” (I noted the space is still there in subclause titles at least)
  • Check capitalization everywhere, e.g., Multi-AP Ccoordination Ddiscovery, and Multi-AP Ccoordination agreement negotiation.
  • Still feel that the name “Multi-AP coordination agreement negotiation” is unnecessarily long, and would recommend “Multi-AP coordination agreement negotiation”. An agreement can be referred to in the text as the product of negotiations without needing to use it as an attribute of the negotiation in the subfeature name.

 

Reference text 2:

access point identifier: [AP ID] A value used for identifying an AP, with which a Multi -AP coordination agreement has been established prior to or during a M-AP Coordinationed Transmission.

Comments 2:

I do not know if the assignment info is going to be delivered within the request for a feature agreement, the response, or some other previous or later step. Since we do not have this level of clarity in agreements, (an also in definitions it is ok to be more succinct and have the protocol level details in the related subclause), I believe it is better to avoid this text in the definition.

 

Reference text 3:

“The Multi-AP Coordination feature includes a set of schemes and procedures in which OBSS APs coordinate their transmission to improve communication reliability.”

Comments 3:

Seems it would be convenient to have an acronym for Multi-AP coordination, e.g.,  [MAPC], which you already use in Table 9-64.

Suggesting the following definition:

“Multi-AP coordination: [MAPC] a framework that includes a set of features including Co-BF, Co-SR, Co-TDMA, and Co-RTWT and procedures for OBSS APs to coordinate their transmissions and improve communications reliability.”

This definition can be considered to revise the first sentence in 37.7.7.1.

 

Thanks again,

Best,

Giovanni

 

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Hello everyone,

 

 

Thanks for the further comments I’ve received from Jiayi, Robbe, Haorui, You-Wei, I’ve updated the proposed draft text document for the Multi-AP Coordination framework (r2) in the following link:

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/24/11-24-2049-02-00bn-pdt-mac-m-ap-coordination-framework.docx

 

Please let me know if you have any further comments.

 

Regards,

Arik

 

From: Arik Klein
Sent: יום ה 02 ינואר 2025 20:01
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] PDT-MAC-M-AP-COORDINATED-FRAMEWORK

 

Hello everyone,

 

Happy New Year !

 

Thanks for the useful comments I’ve received from Jay, Xiaofei and Giovanni, I’ve updated the proposed draft text document for the Multi-AP Coordination framework (r1) in the following link:

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/24/11-24-2049-01-00bn-pdt-mac-m-ap-coordination-framework.docx

 

Your comments and feedback are highly appreciated.

 

Regards,

Arik

 

From: Arik Klein <0000177967a59511-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: יום ה 05 דצמבר 2024 21:21
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] PDT-MAC-M-AP-COORDINATED-FRAMEWORK

 

Hello everyone,

 

Please use this thread to start the discussion on the M-AP Coordinated framework.

The initial version of the proposed draft text document can be found here: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/24/11-24-2049-00-00bn-pdt-mac-m-ap-coordination-framework.docx

 

Your comments are appreciated.

 

Regards,

Arik

 


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