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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] TGbn MAC SPs Request



Dear Alfred,

 

Would you please add updated HIP EDCA SP to the MAC queue

 

Do you agree to define HIP EDCA in UHR where a STA with Low Latency traffic may be allowed, based on TBD conditions, to send a Defer Signal (e.g. CTS frame or RTS) to start a protected short contention for pending LL data

    • Conditions to be allowed to send a Defer Signal is TBD
    • STA in HiP EDCA always use RTS/CTS as initial frame exchange and retry.
    • Duration of protected short contention is TBD.
    • Access parameters (AIFSN, CW and the expansion rules) used to transmit the Defer Signal are TBD. The retry count where the Defer Signal is allowed to be sent is TBD
    • Contention parameters for the protected short contention are TBD. The STAs that transmitted a Defer Signal but did not win the protected short contention will initiate a new retry.
    • Low Latency traffic is treated as AC_VO traffic. Other cases are TBD.
    • The solution would provide control on the degree of collisions that may occur while using it and, allows for autonomous randomness or/and controlled by the AP      
    • No new mandatory synchronization requirement on STA side
    • HIP EDCA is used by the STAs in a BSS only when this feature is enabled by the AP

 

Supporting doc: 24/1144r1

 

Thank you

 

Dmitry

 

From: Sherief Helwa <00002dded7ae4daf-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2025 6:42 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] TGbn MAC SPs Request

 

Hi Alfred,

 

Please see the following updated SP text.

 

  • Do you agree with the following:

 

Green: allowed

Orange: disallowed

 

 

Allowed ICF to be transmitted by a non-AP STA?

 

eMLSR

AP DPS

DUO

NPCA

Unsolicited Coex

C-TDMA (ICF)

Co-BF/Co-SR

RTS

N/A

 

Yes

 

N/A*

 

 

 

No

No

N/A

 

 

 

MU RTS

No

No

No

BSRP Trigger

No

No

No

BSRP GI3

Yes

Yes

Yes

 

RTS solicits CTS frame; BSRP GI3 Trigger frame solicits an M-BA that is contained in a non-HT (dup) PPDU.

C-TDMA, C-BF, CSR transmission is to other APs. No expectations for non-AP STAs, unless due to other functionalities already enabled/supported by non-AP STA.

* Here N/A means that the Coex Mode (DUO) cannot be enabled by an AP, and as such the AP cannot send an M-BA that contains unavailability feedback in response to ICFs (BSRP GI3 to be more specific) sent by the STA.

Acronyms:

  • DPS: Dynamic Power Save
  • DUO: Dynamic Unavailability Operation
  • Unsolicited CoEx: Reporting unavailability in ICF
  • Co-BF: Coordinated beamforming
  • Co-SR: Coordinated Spatial Reuse
  • BSRP GI3: BSRP Trigger frame soliciting a non-HT (dup) response

 

Supporting list: [24/1558, 24/1221, 24/1225, 24/1563]

 

 

  • Do you agree with the following:

 

Green: allowed

Yellow: TBD

Orange: disallowed

 

Allowed ICF to be transmitted by an AP

ICF

eMLSR

DPS

DUO

NPCA

C-TDMA (ICF/announcement frame)

Co-BF/Co-SR

RTS

No

Yes

No

No

No

No

MU RTS

Yes

Yes

No

Yes

No

TBD

BSRP Trigger

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

TBD

BSRP GI3

TBD

TBD

Yes

TBD

Yes

TBD

RTS solicits CTS frame; MU RTS Trigger solicits CTS frame; BSRP Trigger solicits a TB PPDU that contains QoS Null(s) if STA is not in Coex mode and STA is allowed to aggregated M-BA if STA is in Coex mode; BSRP GI3 Trigger frame solicits an M-BA that is contained in a non-HT (dup) PPDU.

Allocation frame for C-TDMA is MU-RTS TXS

Acronyms:

  • DPS: Dynamic Power Save
  • DUO: Dynamic Unavailability Operation
  • Co-BF: Coordinated beamforming
  • Co-SR: Coordinated Spatial Reuse
  • BSRP GI3: BSRP Trigger frame soliciting a non-HT (dup) response

 

Supporting list: [24/1558, 24/1221, 24/1225, 24/1563]

 

 

Regards,

Sherief

 

 

From: Sherief Helwa
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2025 12:37 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Alfred Asterjadhi <asterjadhi@xxxxxxxxx>; Liwen Chu <liwen.chu@xxxxxxx>
Cc: Liwen Chu <liwen.chu@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: TGbn MAC SPs Request

 

Hi Alfred,

 

A couple more SPs to add to the MAC queue please. These two SPs are from @Liwen Chu and me.

 

 

  • Do you agree with the following:

 

Green: allowed

Orange: disallowed

 

 

Allowed ICF to be transmitted by a non-AP STA?

 

eMLSR

AP DPS

solicited Coex

DSO

NPCA

Unsolicited Coex

CFP

C-TDMA (ICF)

C-BF/CSR

RTS

N/A

 

Yes

 

N/A*

 

 

 

N/A

 

 

 

No

No

No

N/A

 

 

 

MU RTS

No

No

No

No

BSRP

No

No

No

No

BSRP GI3

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

 

C-TDMA, C-BF, CSR transmission is to other APs. No expectations for non-AP STAs, unless due to other functionalities already enabled/supported by non-AP STA.

* Here N/A means that the Coex Mode cannot be enabled by an AP, and as such the AP cannot send an M-BA that contains unavailability feedback in response to ICFs (BSRP GI3 to be more specific) sent by the STA.

 

Supporting list: [24/1558, 24/1221, 24/1225, 24/1564, 24/1563]

 

 

  • Do you agree with the following:

 

Green: allowed

Yellow: TBD

Orange: disallowed

 

Allowed ICF to be transmitted by an AP

ICF

eMLSR

DPS

DUO

DSO

NPCA

CFP

C-TDMA (ICF/announcement frame)

C-BF/CSR

RTS

No

Yes

No

No

No

No

No

No

MU RTS

Yes

Yes

No

No

Yes

No

No

TBD

BSRP

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

TBD

BSRP GI3

TBD

TBD

Yes

No

TBD

Yes

Yes

TBD

C-TDMA, C-BF, CSR transmission is to other APs. No expectations for non-AP STAs, unless due to other functionalities already enabled/supported by non-AP STA.

RTS solicits CTS frame; MU RTS Trigger solicits CTS frame; BSRP Trigger solicits a TB PPDU that contains QoS Null(s) if STA is not in Coex mode and STA is allowed to aggregated M-BA if STA is in Coex mode; BSRP GI3 Trigger frame solicits an M-BA that is contained in a non-HT (dup) PPDU. More details in other tables.

Allocation frame for C-TDMA is MU-RTS TXS

 

Supporting list: [24/1558, 24/1221, 24/1225, 24/1564, 24/1563]

 

 

Regards,

Sherief

 

From: Sherief Helwa
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2025 10:20 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Alfred Asterjadhi <asterjadhi@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: TGbn MAC SPs Request

 

Hi Alfred,

 

Can you please add the following SPs to the MAC queue?

 

  • Do you agree with the following for UHR-variant trigger frame:
    • Responding PPDU format is non-HT (Dup) PPDU format: reuse entry value 3 in GI and HE/EHT LTF type in UHR-variant common info field
      • Other values are used for UHR TB PPDU format

Supporting list: [11-24/1558]

 

  • Do you agree to include the CoEx unavailability information in a new “Special User Info” field with AID12 set to 2008 of the BSRP Trigger frame when used as an ICF to report CoEx unavailability information
    • A Feedback Type field (4 bits field – B12 to B15 of the “Special User Info” field) which is set to 0 to indicate that the “Special User Info” field is carrying CoEx unavailability information
    • CoEx unavailability information includes two parameters: Unavailability Target Start Time and Unavailability Duration (these fields are already defined)

Supporting list: [11-24/1558]

 

  • Do you support to define a special Feedback Per AID TID Info field (name TBD) that carries control feedback in the M-BA frame?
    • The control feedback (i.e. unavailability indication) is carried instead of the BlockAck Bitmap in that Feedback Per AID TID Info field
    • The Ack Type subfield of the Per AID TID Info field is set to 0 and the TID subfield of the Per AID TID Info field is set to the value 13
    • The AID11 subfield of this Per AID TID Info field is set to 2008 value if the control feedback is addressed to all STAs or to the AID11 that identifies the intended recipient STA
    • The Starting Sequence Number field of this Per AID TID Info field is reserved

Supporting list: [11-24/543, 11-24/1558]

 

Regards,

Sherief


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