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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] TGbn MAC SPs Request



Hi Alfred.

 

Could you please add the following SP to the MAC SP queue?

  • SP: Do you agree to add the following text to the TGbn SFD?

n   An AP that requests protection for its R-TWT schedule(s) via negotiations shall include information carried in TBD subfields from the Broadcast TWT Parameter Set field corresponding to each R-TWT schedule being negotiated in a TBD individually addressed Management frame that it transmits to the other AP.

 

Best Regards

SunHee Baek

 

From: hongwon.lee <hongwon.lee@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 2:39 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] TGbn MAC SPs Request

 

Hi Alfred,

 

Could you please add the following SP to the MAC SP queue?

 

SP1 Hongwon Lee Coex

Do you agree to include the following into the 11bn SFD?

In response to BSRP Trigger frame transmitted by a non-AP STA as the TXOP holder, an AP transmits a Multi-STA BlockAck frame

  • Block Ack Starting Sequence Control subfield and Block Ack Bitmap subfield are not present if there is no any feedback information
  • Values of Ack Type and TID are TBD

Supporting documents: [24/1464]

 

Best Regards,

Hongwon

 

From: Shawn Kim <shawn.kim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 1:54 PM
To:
STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] TGbn MAC SPs Request

 

Dear Alfred,

 

Could you please add the following SPs to the MAC queue?

 

(SP1) •Do you agree to add the following to the TGbn SFD?

- NPCA Initial Control Frame shall explicitly indicate that it is transmitted via the NPCA primary channel

Supporting document: [24/0670]

 

(SP2) •Do you agree to add the following to the TGbn SFD?

- An AP operating on the NPCA primary channel does not respond to the frame transmitted via the BSS primary channel

Supporting document: [24/0670]

 

Best regards,

Shawn

 

 

2025 1 14 () 오전 11:42, Sherief Helwa <00002dded7ae4daf-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>님이 작성:

Hi Alfred,

 

Please see the following updated SP text.

 

  • Do you agree with the following:

 

Green: allowed

Orange: disallowed

 

 

Allowed ICF to be transmitted by a non-AP STA?

 

eMLSR

AP DPS

DUO

NPCA

Unsolicited Coex

C-TDMA (ICF)

Co-BF/Co-SR

RTS

N/A

 

Yes

 

N/A*

 

 

 

No

No

N/A

 

 

 

MU RTS

No

No

No

BSRP Trigger

No

No

No

BSRP GI3

Yes

Yes

Yes

 

RTS solicits CTS frame; BSRP GI3 Trigger frame solicits an M-BA that is contained in a non-HT (dup) PPDU.

C-TDMA, C-BF, CSR transmission is to other APs. No expectations for non-AP STAs, unless due to other functionalities already enabled/supported by non-AP STA.

* Here N/A means that the Coex Mode (DUO) cannot be enabled by an AP, and as such the AP cannot send an M-BA that contains unavailability feedback in response to ICFs (BSRP GI3 to be more specific) sent by the STA.

Acronyms:

  • DPS: Dynamic Power Save
  • DUO: Dynamic Unavailability Operation
  • Unsolicited CoEx: Reporting unavailability in ICF
  • Co-BF: Coordinated beamforming
  • Co-SR: Coordinated Spatial Reuse
  • BSRP GI3: BSRP Trigger frame soliciting a non-HT (dup) response

 

Supporting list: [24/1558, 24/1221, 24/1225, 24/1563]

 

 

  • Do you agree with the following:

 

Green: allowed

Yellow: TBD

Orange: disallowed

 

Allowed ICF to be transmitted by an AP

ICF

eMLSR

DPS

DUO

NPCA

C-TDMA (ICF/announcement frame)

Co-BF/Co-SR

RTS

No

Yes

No

No

No

No

MU RTS

Yes

Yes

No

Yes

No

TBD

BSRP Trigger

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

TBD

BSRP GI3

TBD

TBD

Yes

TBD

Yes

TBD

RTS solicits CTS frame; MU RTS Trigger solicits CTS frame; BSRP Trigger solicits a TB PPDU that contains QoS Null(s) if STA is not in Coex mode and STA is allowed to aggregated M-BA if STA is in Coex mode; BSRP GI3 Trigger frame solicits an M-BA that is contained in a non-HT (dup) PPDU.

Allocation frame for C-TDMA is MU-RTS TXS

Acronyms:

  • DPS: Dynamic Power Save
  • DUO: Dynamic Unavailability Operation
  • Co-BF: Coordinated beamforming
  • Co-SR: Coordinated Spatial Reuse
  • BSRP GI3: BSRP Trigger frame soliciting a non-HT (dup) response

 

Supporting list: [24/1558, 24/1221, 24/1225, 24/1563]

 

 

Regards,

Sherief

 

 

From: Sherief Helwa
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2025 12:37 AM
To:
STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Alfred Asterjadhi <asterjadhi@xxxxxxxxx>; Liwen Chu <liwen.chu@xxxxxxx>
Cc: Liwen Chu <
liwen.chu@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: TGbn MAC SPs Request

 

Hi Alfred,

 

A couple more SPs to add to the MAC queue please. These two SPs are from @Liwen Chu and me.

 

 

  • Do you agree with the following:

 

Green: allowed

Orange: disallowed

 

 

Allowed ICF to be transmitted by a non-AP STA?

 

eMLSR

AP DPS

solicited Coex

DSO

NPCA

Unsolicited Coex

CFP

C-TDMA (ICF)

C-BF/CSR

RTS

N/A

 

Yes

 

N/A*

 

 

 

N/A

 

 

 

No

No

No

N/A

 

 

 

MU RTS

No

No

No

No

BSRP

No

No

No

No

BSRP GI3

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

 

C-TDMA, C-BF, CSR transmission is to other APs. No expectations for non-AP STAs, unless due to other functionalities already enabled/supported by non-AP STA.

* Here N/A means that the Coex Mode cannot be enabled by an AP, and as such the AP cannot send an M-BA that contains unavailability feedback in response to ICFs (BSRP GI3 to be more specific) sent by the STA.

 

Supporting list: [24/1558, 24/1221, 24/1225, 24/1564, 24/1563]

 

 

  • Do you agree with the following:

 

Green: allowed

Yellow: TBD

Orange: disallowed

 

Allowed ICF to be transmitted by an AP

ICF

eMLSR

DPS

DUO

DSO

NPCA

CFP

C-TDMA (ICF/announcement frame)

C-BF/CSR

RTS

No

Yes

No

No

No

No

No

No

MU RTS

Yes

Yes

No

No

Yes

No

No

TBD

BSRP

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

TBD

BSRP GI3

TBD

TBD

Yes

No

TBD

Yes

Yes

TBD

C-TDMA, C-BF, CSR transmission is to other APs. No expectations for non-AP STAs, unless due to other functionalities already enabled/supported by non-AP STA.

RTS solicits CTS frame; MU RTS Trigger solicits CTS frame; BSRP Trigger solicits a TB PPDU that contains QoS Null(s) if STA is not in Coex mode and STA is allowed to aggregated M-BA if STA is in Coex mode; BSRP GI3 Trigger frame solicits an M-BA that is contained in a non-HT (dup) PPDU. More details in other tables.

Allocation frame for C-TDMA is MU-RTS TXS

 

Supporting list: [24/1558, 24/1221, 24/1225, 24/1564, 24/1563]

 

 

Regards,

Sherief

 

From: Sherief Helwa
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2025 10:20 PM
To:
STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Alfred Asterjadhi <asterjadhi@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: TGbn MAC SPs Request

 

Hi Alfred,

 

Can you please add the following SPs to the MAC queue?

 

  • Do you agree with the following for UHR-variant trigger frame:
    • Responding PPDU format is non-HT (Dup) PPDU format: reuse entry value 3 in GI and HE/EHT LTF type in UHR-variant common info field
      • Other values are used for UHR TB PPDU format

Supporting list: [11-24/1558]

 

  • Do you agree to include the CoEx unavailability information in a new Special User Info field with AID12 set to 2008 of the BSRP Trigger frame when used as an ICF to report CoEx unavailability information
    • A Feedback Type field (4 bits field B12 to B15 of the Special User Info field) which is set to 0 to indicate that the Special User Info field is carrying CoEx unavailability information
    • CoEx unavailability information includes two parameters: Unavailability Target Start Time and Unavailability Duration (these fields are already defined)

Supporting list: [11-24/1558]

 

  • Do you support to define a special Feedback Per AID TID Info field (name TBD) that carries control feedback in the M-BA frame?
    • The control feedback (i.e. unavailability indication) is carried instead of the BlockAck Bitmap in that Feedback Per AID TID Info field
    • The Ack Type subfield of the Per AID TID Info field is set to 0 and the TID subfield of the Per AID TID Info field is set to the value 13
    • The AID11 subfield of this Per AID TID Info field is set to 2008 value if the control feedback is addressed to all STAs or to the AID11 that identifies the intended recipient STA
    • The Starting Sequence Number field of this Per AID TID Info field is reserved

Supporting list: [11-24/543, 11-24/1558]

 

Regards,

Sherief


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