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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Motions



Hi Alfred,

We reached a compromise with Ming on PDT MAC Coexistence.

I’d like to request the following straw poll during Wednesday AM1 before the motions:

 

  • Do you agree to incorporate the proposed text changes for coexistence found in 11-24/2040r8 into the 802.11bn draft amendment?

 

Thanks,

Laurent

 

 

 

 

From: Yujian (Ross Yu) <00001792b51ef4ea-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 6:25 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBN]
答复: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Motions

 

Hi Alfred,

 

Please add the following motion into the list:

 

Move to include the following into 11bn SFD:

  • 11bn defines the following modes for co-SR transmission:
    • Mode 1: trigger + same L-SIG contents, could be different U-SIG contents.
      • For UHR+EHT, or EHT+UHR or EHT+EHT co-SR transmission.
      • Provided no changes to non-UHR EHT non-AP STAs are needed.
    • Mode 2: Tigger + same L-SIG contents + same U-SIG contents
      • For UHR+UHR co-SR transmission.
    • For all modes, the two PPDUs will start and end at the same time.
    • UHR PPDU for co-SR transmission will be used for either mode 1 or mode 2 when UHR transmission exists.
      • There exists an indication in U-SIG field to indicate the UHR PPDU is a UHR PPDU for co-SR transmission.

Support document: 11/25-0104r0

SP result: 41Y, 7N, 20A (Sigurd please double check, thanks)

 

Regards

Ross Jian Yu 于健

Huawei Technologies

 

发件人: humengshi <0000179fd8c5ace5-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
发送时间: 2025114 17:43
收件人: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
主题: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] 回复: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Motions

 

Hello, Alfred

 

The following SP has passed in the PHY session in PM2 of 14 Jan (Tuesday), and please, add it to the motion list.

 

SP1:

  • Do you support adding the following to the 11bn SFD?
    • In the UHR MU PPDU in 11bn, the PE requirements of UEQM with the constellation order x of the first spatial stream is equal to the PE requirements of EQM with the constellation order x?

Supporting document: [25/0128r0]

[No objection]

 

 

Thank you

Regards

 

Mengshi Hu

 

 

发件人: Junghoon Suh <000017d35818e7c0-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
发送时间: 2025114 17:31
收件人: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
主题: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Motions

 

Hello, Alfred

The following SP has passed in the PHY session in PM2 of 14 Jan (Tuesday), and please, add it to the motion list.

 

SP1:

Do you support including the following into the 11bn SFD?

  • 11bn defines 5 bit Recommended CSI MCS subfield in the 2nd Special STA Info field of the NDPA targeted for OBSS AP in the UHR CoBF sounding
    • It is set from B20 to B24 in the 2nd Special STA Info field
    • The 5-bit MCS level includes “No Recommendation” MCS entry in addition to the UHR MCS entries
      • Index 31 indicates “No Recommendation”
    • The Recommended CSI MCS is for the OBSS AP to set the MCS in the BFRP trigger frame sent in the future Cross-BSS sounding / Joint Sounding sequence
    • When there are multiple OBSS STAs to feedback the CSI report, the Recommended CSI MCS can be set to the lowest MCS among all those OBSS STAs

 

Thank you

Regards

 

Junghoon Suh

 

 

From: Shimi Shilo (TRC) [mailto:000018c72fccabed-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: January 14, 2025 3:04 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Motions

 

Hi Alfred,

 

The following SPs passed in the PHY session, please add them to the motion list:

 

SP1 (Interference Mitigation)

Do you support to include the following in the 11bn SFD:

  • The Interference Mitigation feature is only defined with LDPC?

Supporting document: [24/1785r2]

[No objection]

 

SP3 (Interference Mitigation)

Do you support to include the following in the 11bn SFD:

  • For each bandwidth, there is a fixed number of IM pilots (value TBD)?

Supporting document: [24/1785r2]

[No objection]

 

SP4 (Interference Mitigation)

Do you support to include the following in the 11bn SFD:

  • Within any transmission that uses IM pilots, they are used in every data OFDM symbol and in the same corresponding subcarriers positions, for a given BW?

Supporting document: [24/1785r2]

[No objection]

 

Thanks,

 

Shimi

 

From: Li, Qinghua <qinghua.li@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2025 3:09 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Motions

 

Hi Alfred,

 

Thanks for your timely scheduling. The SPs below got passed in PHY with no objection. Please add them to the motion list:

 

SP4 – Qinghua Li – UHR Stream Parser                                                                       

Do you support to add the following to UHR SFD?

  • Exclude BPSK from UHR UEQM.

Supporting documents: [24/1832r6, 24/1807r0]

[No objection]

 

SP5 – Qinghua Li – UHR Stream Parser                                                                       

Do you support to add the following to UHR SFD?

  • Include 4K QAM in UHR UEQM.

Supporting documents: [24/1832r6]

[No objection]

 

SP6 – Qinghua Li – UHR Stream Parser                                                                       

Do you support to add the following to UHR SFD?

  • Reuse HT stream parser for UHR UEQM with the following restrictions and extension

Supporting documents: [24/1832r6, 24/1451r2]

[No objection]

 

SP7 – Qinghua Li – UHR Stream Parser                                                                       

Do you support to add the following to UHR SFD?

For equal modulation, UHR stream parser remains the same as EHT.

Supporting documents: [24/1832r6]

[No objection]

 

SP8 – Qinghua Li – UHR Stream Parser                                                                       

Do you support to add the following to UHR SFD?

For bandwidths greater than 80 MHz, the coded bit parsing of UHR is stream parsing first followed by segment parsing.

Supporting documents: [24/1832r6]

[No objection]

 

 

Thanks,

Qinghua

 

 

 

From: Alfred Asterjadhi <asterjadhi@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2025 2:00 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Updated TGbn Agenda Posted

 

Hello all,

 

I posted an updated version of the agenda (here).

 

It contains the most up to data queues and the allocations for the week. Please review and let me know if I have missed anything. 

 

PS: I have yet to populate the SPs with the usual format for PHY/MAC/Joint. I expect to do so for the next revision of the agenda.

 

Regards,


Alfred

 

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IEEE802.11 TGbe/TGbn Chair,

Qualcomm Technologies Inc.

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