Hi Xiangxi,
Thanks for the comment,
AP ID field in MAPC request/reponse frame is optional indeed.
In MAPC request frame:
If the initiating AP assigns an AP ID to the responding AP, the AP ID field contains an AP ID assigned by the initiating AP to the responding AP, and is defined in 9.4.1.X1 (AP ID field). Otherwise, the AP ID field is reserved.
In MAPC response frame:
If the Status Code field is equal to SUCCESS and the AP ID assignment is required, the AP ID field contains the assigned AP ID by the responding AP to the initiating AP. Otherwise, the AP ID field is reserved.
Sure, more information will be added into MAPC request/response frame if the group agreed, I'm heritating to add TBD in the frame format as some members doesn't like we need more TBD before draft1.0, but I'm open to do that.
Welcome the further comments.
Thanks
Best Regards
Jay Yang (杨志杰)
Hi Jay,
Thanks for the PDT.
I guess that MAPC request/response frame will have more information, such as MAPC mode, …
After the first MAPC request/response between a pair of APs, no AP ID field is needed in later MAPC request/response exchange to update the MAPC.
So the AP ID field shall be optional.
BR,
Xiangxin Gu
Communication Standards Devision
From: Jonghoe Koo <jh89.koo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi Jay,
Thanks for the updates I confirm that all my suggestions have been well addressed in the latest version.
Regarding the issue of Protected dual of Public Action frame for MAPC Request/Response, I also agree with you because the baseline text just originates from PDT-MAC-MLME-for-MAPC integrated into TGbn D0.1.
Therefore, if someone wishes to raise an issue then they should do so through D0.1 comment collection process currently underway.
Regards,
Jonghoe KOO
Communications Standards Research Team, Samsung Research
Samsung Electronics
From: Jay Yang <yang.zhijie@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi All,
Based on the comment from Tomo and Jonghoe , I separate the definition of AP ID field from AID field, and please review the latest revision in the attachment (or via the following link),
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-0244-01-00bn-pdt-mac-ap-id-assignment.docx
@Jonghoe ,
I almost incorporate all your changes into the attached document, many thanks. For the range of AID, I saw the AID is in [1,2007] (see 9.4.1.8), and thus the AP ID shall be in the same range to align the passed motion.
@Liwen ,
Regarding to your 1st comment, 11bn draft 0.1 has the Protected MAPC Request and MAPC Response frame (see them in Table 9-516 in P63), and this PDT is on the top of baseline, and thus we can move forward without a duplicated motion on this.
For your 2nd comment, I agree with you, but I'm hesitating to make it at this moment as the passed motion doesn't touch this point. It's a great appreciated if you could submit a CC on this, and we could address it in following CR procedure.
Welcome the futher comments and questions.
Thanks
Best Regards
Jay Yang (杨志杰)
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From: LiwenChu <liwen.chu@xxxxxxx>
Date: 2025年02月19日 00:38
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] [EXT] Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] PDT on AP ID assignment
Hi Jay,
Thanks for the contribution. I have the following comments:
1, there is no motion about protected Action frame for the action frame between two APs . The related text should be removed from the document.
2, bullet 3 in subclause 37.8.1.3.2 doesn’t consider the AID allocation under multiple BSSID .
Best Regards,
Liwen
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Hi Jay,
Thanks for the update.
For my first comment, I’m OK with your wording under 37.8.1.3.2, but I still feel uncomfortable with the description, “the AP ID … is defined in 9.4.1.8 (AID field)”, appearing in 9.6.7.55a and 9.6.7.55b, because currently 9.4.1.8 does not define the case when the ID is assigned to an AP.
Instead of adding that case under 9.4.1.8, the other way may be to delete them in 9.6.7.55a and 9.6.7.55b as Jonghoe suggested.
Best regards,
tomo
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Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] PDT on AP ID assignment
Hi Tomo ,
Thanks for your comment, see the update PDT in the attachment according to your following three comments.
Regarding to your first comments, I refer to the writing style in the baseline "The AID and RSID assignment shall be nonconflicting and shall have the same size and valid address space (as defined in 9.4.1.8 (AID field) and 26.17.4 (AID assignment))", and do some change accordingly.
Welcome further comments.
Thanks
Best Regards
Jay Yang (杨志杰)
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From: TomoAdachi <tomo .adachi @TOSHIBA.CO.JP>
Date: 2025年02月17日 10:43
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] PDT on AP ID assignment
Hi Jay,
Thanks for this PDT.
I have some comments:
l This AP ID case needs to be added in 9.4.1.8 (AID field).
l For the 3rd bullet under 37.8.1.3.2 AP ID assignment, the AP needs to be clarified that it is an assigning AP.
Something like, “An assigning AP shall ensure that the AP ID value is not assigned by itself or by its affiliated MLD ….”
l In the last bullet under 9.6.7.55b MAPC Response frame format, “The responder AP doesn’t assigns an AP ID to the initiator AP.” à “When an AP ID is not assigned in an MAPC Response frame.”
Best regards,
tomo
From: Jay Yang <yang.zhijie@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 8:45 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] PDT on AP ID assignment
Hi All,
I uploaded the PDT on AP ID assignment based on the two relevant motions and 802.11bn draft0.1, welcome the further comments and questions
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-0244-00-00bn-pdt-mac-ap-id-assignment.docx
Thanks
Best Regards
Jay Yang (杨志杰)
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