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[STDS-802-11-TGBN] Atlanta IEEE 802.11 TGbn MAC ad hoc meeting notes



All,

 

There have been several requests for information on the SPs modified on the fly. I am attaching the notes that I have compiled for each of the sessions for my report to the TG chair. While they are somewhat cryptic, I checked for accuracy and I think they are all correct.

 

Thanks.

Regards,

srini


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3/10 AM1 session:

 

Following item needs to be done in the next session:

 

  • Review/Finalize Comment Assignments for CC50 – MAC tab (TGbn D0.1) – 25/0296r1

 

Documents presented in AM1 session:

 

    • 24/1750 Managed on-channel P2P communication and simulations - Follow up   Iñaki Val
    • 24/2076 TDLS-over-off-channel                                                                                                 Liangxiao Xin
    • 24/1838 Considerations on Coordinated NPCA                                                                    Mahmoud Hasabelnaby
    • 24/1867 Further Consideration for NPCA Operation                                                                          Jeongki Kim
    • 24/1914 Further Considerations on NPCA                                                                                                             DongJu Cha
    •  

 

No SPs presented.

 

Thanks.

Regards,

srini

 

 

 

 


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AM2 proceedings:

 

SP1: Dmitry Akhmetov, Channel Access: 24/1918r1 – Result:

·         Do you support to define CTS as Defer Signal to start protected short contention for the pending LL data?

  • 99Y,18N, 51A
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SP2: Dmitry Akhmetov, Channel Access: 24/1918r1 – Result:

·         Do you support that a UHR STA may use P-EDCA

      • If P-EDCA option is enabled by the AP
        • Enablement procedure TBD
      • May transmit up to TBD but no more than 50 transmissions of DS and up to 2.5 ms of total transmission time to start P-EDCA contention over 50ms interval
        • Note: ETSI regulation of Short Control Signaling transmission
      • Shall not initiate more than TBD number of transmissions of DS to start P-EDCA consecutively.
        • Note: consecutive DS transmission are multiple attempts to perform P- EDCA contention w/o falling back to regular EDCA operation
  • 72Y, 41N, 58A

 

SP3: Dmitry Akhmetov, Channel Access: 24/1918r1 – Result:

  • Do you support to use the reference value for the Protected Duration of the protected short contention
    • The default value is equal to AIFSN[2] + 7 slots (97 us)
    • The Defer Signal frame carry that Protected Duration in the Duration field
    • UHR AP may advertise values other than default
  • 101 Y, 15N, 49A

 

  • PDTs/CRs (5 mins) –
    • 25/244r3 PDT-mac-AP ID assignment                                                                                                      Jay Yang                                 (SP)

No motions

 

  • Submissions – NPCA Part 2 - presented
    • 24/2061 Usage of NPCA in M-AP coordination                                                                                     Si-Chan Noh
    • 24/2088 NPCA Primary Channel Access                                                                                                  Yuxin Lu
    • 24/2089 NPCA Primary Channel Selection                                                                                             Yuxin Lu
    • 24/2092 Considerations on NPCA Follow Up                                                                                         Maolin Zhang
    • 24/2110 Impact of hidden nodes on NPCA performance                                                                 Iñaki Val Beitia

 

Deferred to the next meeting:

 

    • 24/2139 Non-Primary Channel Access with MLO                                                                                Hui Che

 

 

 

 


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SP1: Guogang Huang, Discovery: – Result:

  • Do you support to define a mechanism in 11bn to retrieve probe response content for neighboring AP MLD(s) of the current AP MLD, through the current AP MLD?
  • Note. The neighboring AP MLD and the current AP MLD are in the same ESS

Reference documents:[23/1897r0, 24/1879r0, 24/658, 24/1884].

 

No objection

 

SP2: Sindhu Verma, Coex: 24/1559r1 – Result:

  • Do you agree to the following conditions for transmitting unsolicited unavailability indications that can be sent by a non-AP as a TXOP holder in a BSRP GI3 trigger frame:
    • No restriction when sent with QoS data transmitted in the TXOP
    • When sent without QoS data transmitted in the TXOP, not more than MaxStandaloneDuoBSRP number of times every beacon interval where MaxStandaloneDuoBSRP is a non-zero value and part of the DUO parameter set indicated by the AP
    • Note: BSRP GI3 trigger frame is a BSRP Trigger frame that solicits a M-BA Response that is carried in non-HT (dup) PPDU format

 

No objection

 

SP3: Sindhu Verma, ICF: – Result:

  • Do you agree that the I-FCS in a Trigger frame is included as part of 2 contiguous User Info fields known as I-FCS User Info fields

 

Motion to amend agenda: Move to amend the agenda by adding document 25/450 before the currently scheduled SPs

Moved by Avner

Seconded by Martinez

Result: 82Y, 55N, 38A

 

SP3: 92Y, 65N, 60A

 

SP1: Binita Gupta, DBE: – Result:

  • Do you agree to define in 11bn a mechanism for dynamic bandwidth expansion (DBE) that enables a UHR AP to modify (expand/reset) its Dynamic UHR operating BSS bandwidth for UHR STAs that support the DBE operation
    • The dynamic bandwidth change is signaled using management frames and is announced for multiple beacon intervals in advance, and the AP shall stay on the expanded bandwidth until a subsequent dynamic bandwidth change occurs
    • The primary channel does not change as part of the dynamic BW expansion.
    • TBD on DBE signaling details

Supporting documents: 11-24/88, 11-24/815

 

No objection

 

  • PDTs/CRs (10 mins) –
    • 24/2007r4 PDT-MAC-P EDCA                                                                                                                               Akhmetov, Dmitry

Motion: Do you support incorporating the document 24/2007r4 into the next Tgbn Draft

 

86Y, 46N, 50A

 

Submissions presented:

  • 24/2125 Handling-Asymmetric-Switching-for-Non-Primary-Channel-Access                           Jason Yuchen
  • 25/0001 Discussion-on-different-view-problem-of-NPCA                                                                                Liangxiao Xin

(SP in the presentation)

Do you support to include the following in SFD?
•11bn shall define a mechanism to mitigate different view problem of NPCA .

44Y, 82N, 43A

 

  • 25/0003 NPCA follow up
  • 25/0008 An-optimization-for-NPCA                                                                                                         Xiangxin Gu
  •                

 

Deferred submission

    • 24/2141 NPCA Operation with Multi-link Device                                                                                 Longlong Hong

 

 


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SP4: Morteza Mehrnoush, DSO: – Result:

  • Do you support that TGbn will define a mechanism where a non-AP STA can be allocated frequency resources dynamically (i.e., on a per-TXOP basis) outside of the non-AP STA’s current operating bandwidth and within the associated AP’s BSS bandwidth

Supporting list: [11-22/2204, 11-23/2141 (Sindhu & Shubho), 11-23/843 (Liuming), 11-23/1496 (Kaiying), 11-23/1892 (Gaurang), 11-23/1913 (DongJu), 11-23/1935 (Liwen), 11-23/2027 (Vishnu), 11-24/591 (Morteza), 11-24/1157r1 (Hank Sung), 11-24/1863r1]

 

No objection

 

SP5: Jay Yang, MAP: – Result:

  • Do agree that TGbn defines a procedure using pre-association security negotiation (PASN ) to derive the key(s) needed to protect individually addressed management frames exchanged between two APs as part of the MAPC operation
    • Note – it is TBD whether any extensions will be needed for PASN.

Supporting list: 24/1693r3, 23/1836r3, 24/1220r2

 

77Y, 30N, 70A

 

SP6: Dmitry Akhmetov, Channel Access: 24/1918r1 – Result:

  • Do you support to define default parameters for P-EDCA for AC_VO to be used during protected short contention period  as follows:
    • P-EDCA CWmin=7, P-EDCA CWmax=7
    • P-EDCA AIFSN=2
    • An UHR AP may advertise values other than default

 

No objection

 

SP7: Dmitry Akhmetov, Channel Access: 24/1918r1 – Result:

  • Do you support to define a default AIFSN value equal to 2 and CW_DS (contention window for DS) default value equal to 0 for the transmission of Defer Signal frame of P-EDCA
    • A STA transmit DS on a slot boundary equal to AIFSN + CW, where CW is selected uniformly in (0.. CW_DS) interval each time for the transmission of DS frame
    • UHR AP may advertise values other than default and if advertised, the associated STAs follow the advertised values
    • The transmission of the Defer Signal frame occurs after detecting medium IDLE using both PHY and virtual CS mechanisms

50Y, 32N, 84A

 

Submissions::

 

    • 24/1863 Performance Benefits of DSO                                                                                                    Kerstin Johnsson
    • 25/0123 Further Considerations on NPCA - Follow up                                                                       Liuming Lu
    • 25/0056 On The Interoperability Between NPCA and CR-TWT                                                      Salvatore Talarico
    • 25/0125 Interoperability of NPCA primary channel switching conditions                                  Thomas Handte
    • 25/0138 Further Considerations on NPCA Switching Operation                                                    Serhat Erkucuk

 

 


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I missed the following 2 SPs:

 

SP2: Gwangho Lee, NPCA: 24/1885r4 – Result:

  • Do you agree to include the following into the 11bn SFD?
    • When an NPCA STA receives a RTS frame with bandwidth signaling TA and a CTS frame in non-HT (duplicate) PPDU, identification of the channel occupied by the received frames is determined by examining the bandwidth of the non-HT (duplicate) PPDU containing the CTS frame.

Supporting documents: 11-24/1885r4

 

Deferred

 

SP3: Laurent Cariou, Coex: ???– Result:

  • For the following features, if an AP supports the feature, then the AP shall accept a request from an associated STA to enable or disable the feature on its (STA) side
    • Dynamic unavailability operation
    • Dynamic power save

Supporting Documents: 11-24/1226r0, 11-24/1261r3

 

No objections

 

Regards,

srini

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Subject: 3/11 MAC ad hoc PM1 session

 

SP1: Guogang Huang, Discovery: – Result:

  • Do you support to define a mechanism in 11bn to retrieve probe response content for neighboring AP MLD(s) of the current AP MLD, through the current AP MLD?
  • Note. The neighboring AP MLD and the current AP MLD are in the same ESS

Reference documents:[23/1897r0, 24/1879r0, 24/658, 24/1884].

 

No objection

 

SP2: Sindhu Verma, Coex: 24/1559r1 – Result:

  • Do you agree to the following conditions for transmitting unsolicited unavailability indications that can be sent by a non-AP as a TXOP holder in a BSRP GI3 trigger frame:
    • No restriction when sent with QoS data transmitted in the TXOP
    • When sent without QoS data transmitted in the TXOP, not more than MaxStandaloneDuoBSRP number of times every beacon interval where MaxStandaloneDuoBSRP is a non-zero value and part of the DUO parameter set indicated by the AP
    • Note: BSRP GI3 trigger frame is a BSRP Trigger frame that solicits a M-BA Response that is carried in non-HT (dup) PPDU format

 

No objection

 

SP3: Sindhu Verma, ICF: – Result:

  • Do you agree that the I-FCS in a Trigger frame is included as part of 2 contiguous User Info fields known as I-FCS User Info fields

 

Motion to amend agenda: Move to amend the agenda by adding document 25/450 before the currently scheduled SPs

Moved by Avner

Seconded by Martinez

Result: 82Y, 55N, 38A

 

SP3: 92Y, 65N, 60A

 

SP1: Binita Gupta, DBE: – Result:

  • Do you agree to define in 11bn a mechanism for dynamic bandwidth expansion (DBE) that enables a UHR AP to modify (expand/reset) its Dynamic UHR operating BSS bandwidth for UHR STAs that support the DBE operation
    • The dynamic bandwidth change is signaled using management frames and is announced for multiple beacon intervals in advance, and the AP shall stay on the expanded bandwidth until a subsequent dynamic bandwidth change occurs
    • The primary channel does not change as part of the dynamic BW expansion.
    • TBD on DBE signaling details

Supporting documents: 11-24/88, 11-24/815

 

No objection

 

  • PDTs/CRs (10 mins) –
    • 24/2007r4 PDT-MAC-P EDCA                                                                                                                               Akhmetov, Dmitry

Motion: Do you support incorporating the document 24/2007r4 into the next Tgbn Draft

 

86Y, 46N, 50A

 

Submissions presented:

  • 24/2125 Handling-Asymmetric-Switching-for-Non-Primary-Channel-Access                           Jason Yuchen
  • 25/0001 Discussion-on-different-view-problem-of-NPCA                                                                                Liangxiao Xin

(SP in the presentation)

Do you support to include the following in SFD?
•11bn shall define a mechanism to mitigate different view problem of NPCA .

44Y, 82N, 43A

 

  • 25/0003 NPCA follow up
  • 25/0008 An-optimization-for-NPCA                                                                                                         Xiangxin Gu
  •                

 

Deferred submission

    • 24/2141 NPCA Operation with Multi-link Device                                                                                 Longlong Hong

 

 


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  • PDTs/CRs (Y mins) –
    • 25/454r0 PDT-MAC-DSO                                                                                                                                               Morteza Mehrnoush
  • Submissions – Roaming Part 1
    • 24/1874 Further Details on Improving Roaming between MLDs                                                                   Po-kai Huang

SPs on slides 10-13 have been run and did not have any objection

 

    • 24/1875 MLMD Architecture                                                                                                                                       Jarkko Kneckt
    • 24/1879 Proposals for Expeditious Discovery of APs for Initial Association and Roaming                   Neel Krishnan
    • 24/1882 Link Setup for Seamless Roaming                                                                                                            Chittabrata Ghosh
    • 24/1883 Seamless-Roaming                                                                                                                                        Giovanni Chisci

 


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Submission presented first:

  1. 1884r1, SP1. SP2 no objection, SP3: 69Y, 17N, 45A

 

SP4: Liwen Chu, NPCA: 24/1891– Result:

  • Do you agree that an AP shall not allow the use of NPCA within its BSS if the BSS operating bandwidth is less than or equal to 40 MHz?

 

No objection

 

SP5: Liwen Chu, NPCA : 24/1891 – Result:

  • Do you support that:
    • If a TXOP on the NPCA Primary channel overlaps with the TBTT, the AP shall not transmit the Beacon frame or group addressed frames until it switches back to the BSS Primary channel.
    • NOTE – The NPCA AP and non-AP STA participating in frame exchanges must not switch back to the BSS Primary channel at the TBTT and can continue operating on NPCA Primary until the OBSS transmission ends on BSS Primary channel. In such cases, the group addressed frame will be buffered and delivered immediately following the next DTIM Beacon, unless explicitly specified otherwise

 

No objection

 

SP6: Hongwon Lee, Control : 24/1490r2 – Result:

  • Do you agree to include the following into the 11bn SFD?
    • 11bn allows a Multi-STA BA frame to include both Block Ack Bitmap and Feedback information if the preceding PPDU includes QoS Data frame(s) that solicit an immediate response (e.g., Ack or BlockAck context) and the non-AP STA is operating in a mode that allows inclusion of feedback information(e.g. DUO mode)

 

No objection

 

SP7 and SP8 are deferred

 

SP1: Binita Gupta, Roaming: 24/656 – Result:

  • For seamless roaming, do you support to allow a non-AP MLD to request preparing more than one candidate target AP MLDs in an SMD during the roaming preparation phase?
    • Preparation with multiple AP MLDs is performed using a separate roaming preparation request for each AP MLD
    • If successful roaming preparation was performed with multiple candidate target AP MLDs, then the non-AP MLD shall attempt roaming execution with only one of those target AP MLDs at a time.
      • Retries with other target AP MLDs are permitted for roaming execution
    • TBD on policy indication from the AP on multiple target AP MLDs preparation

Result: 86Y, 30N, 34A

 

SP2: Binita Gupta, Roaming: 24/656 – Result:

  • Do you agree to define an SMD element, that provides identification for the SMD and SMD level capabilities for a seamless mobility domain?
    • The SMD element is advertised in Probe Response frames
    • The SMD element is included in Authentication frame when performing authentication with an SMD
    • The SMD element is included in (Re)Association Request & Response frames when performing initial association with the SMD-ME

No objection

 

SP3: Binita Gupta, Roaming: 24/656 – Result:

  • Do you agree to enhance Neighbor Report element to provide SMD related information
    • Add a ‘Same SMD’ indication in the BSSID Information in the NR element, to signal whether the reported neighboring AP is part of the same SMD as the reporting AP
    • ·       Allow including the SMD element as a subelement in the Optional Subelements of the Neighbor Report element, when reported neighboring AP is not part of the same SMD

 

No objection

 

SP10: Javier Perez-Ramirez, Roaming: 24/1824r1 – Result:

  • Do you agree the non-AP MLD may perform R-TWT context renegotiation with the target AP MLD during the roaming procedure?
    • Renegotiation can be initiated after preparation response is successfully received by the non-AP MLD (i.e., the link between the non-AP MLD and the target AP MLD has been successfully set up).
    • Details on how to perform renegotiations are TBD.

 

Deferred

 

SP11 deferred

 

SP11: Jay Yang, MAP: 24/1693r3, 23/1836r3, 24/1220r2 – Result:

  • Do agree that TGbn defines a procedure using pre-association security negotiation (PASN ) to derive the key(s) needed to protect individually addressed management frames exchanged between two APs as part of the MAPC operation
  • Note – it is TBD whether any extensions will be needed for PASN.

 

Deferred

 

SP12: Pooya Monajemi, Roaming: 24/1898r1 – Result:

  • Do you support that during a roaming transition, the current AP MLD shall be capable of signaling termination of downlink data transmission to the non-AP MLD before the transient period ends?
  • Signaling TBD

NOTE: AP sends the indication when there is no more pending DL data (all TIDs). TBD other conditions

 

No objection

 

SP13: Pooya Monajemi, Roaming: 24/1898r1 – Result:

  • Do you support that in the seamless roaming procedure, non-AP MLD can request not to transfer from the current AP MLD to the target AP MLD any of the following as part of the context transfer?
    • The next SN for existing DL BA agreements of all TIDs
    • The latest SN that has been passed up for existing UL BA agreements of all TIDs

 

No objection

 

SP14: Jarkko Kneckt, Roaming: 24/2118r0 – Result:

  • An AP (referred to as the reporting AP) affiliated with an AP MLD includes a TPC Report element in the Per-STA Profile subelement of the Basic Multi-link element in probe response frame for each reported AP affiliated with the same AP MLD

 

Deferred

 

SP15: Giovanni Chisci, Roaming: 24/1883r3 – Result:

  • Do you support allowing a second mode for security in roaming (in addition to the first mode with single TK used across all AP MLDs of the SMD) where a non-AP MLD can derive a new TK under the same PTKSA with the target AP MLD?
    • The new TK is derived as part of the single PTKSA
    • The PN is maintained per PTKSA: The new TK negotiated with the target AP MLD shares the same PN space with the TK of the current AP MLD (PN is monotonically increasing)

Supporting list: [24/1882, 24/1883, 24/1884, 24/1898, 24/1874]

 

No objection

 

SP16: Giovanni Chisci, Roaming: 24/1883r3 – Result:

  • Do you agree that, during the TBD time for retrieving DL from the Current AP MLD, the non-AP MLD may provide an indication to the Target AP MLD that the TBD time for DL retrieval is early-terminated before the TBD time?
  • TBD signaling of the indication

 

No objection

 

Thursday AM1 SP13: Chittabrata Ghosh, Roaming: 24/1882r2 – Result:

  • Do you support that
    • TBD request frame initiating roaming preparation carries the DH parameter element of the non-AP MLD when new PTK is derived
    • TBD response frame during roaming preparation carries DH parameter element generated by the target AP MLD when new PTK is derived
    • Non-AP MLD and the target AP MLD derive the PTK based on the shared PMK and DHss in TBD request and TBD response frames? 

 

No objection

 

    • 25/244r5 PDT-mac-AP ID assignment                                                                                                      Jay Yang                                 (SP)

 

Do you agree to incorporate 25/0244r5 into the next TGbn draft?

 

No objection

 

Submission

 

    • 24/1889 Seamless roaming follow up 1                                                                                                                   Liwen Chu

 

SP1: No objection

 

Following not presented:

    • 24/1890 Seamless roaming follow up 2                                                                                                                   Liwen Chu
    • 24/1898 Low Latency Roaming Flow                                                                                                                        Pooya Monajemi

 

 


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SP5: Po-Kai Huang, Roaming: 24/1874r1 – Result:

  • Do you support to enable the following contexts to be transferred to target AP MLD to preserve the data exchange context for the non-AP MLD?
    • Block Ack Parameters and Block Ack Timeout Value indicated by the non-AP MLD for existing BA agreement of a TID
    • Next SN to be assigned for DL individually addressed data frame of each TID
    • Latest duplicate receiver cache for TID without BA agreement
    • latest SN that has been pass up for TID with UL BA agreement
    • Starting PN to be assigned for DL individually addressed frame by the target AP MLD
    • Initial value to be used by each replay counter of the target AP MLD for UL individually addressed frame
    • WinStartO of an existing DL BA agreement so that the target AP MLD does not exceed reordering buffer window of the non-AP MLD

TBD for other contexts

 

No objections

 

SP6: Giovanni Chisci, MAP: 24/1220r1, 24/0407r0 – Result:

Do you support to define new actions for Public Action frames for MAPC communications such as discovery and negotiations?

  • A new action is defined for MAPC Discovery
  • An action is defined for MAPC Negotiation Request
  • An action is defined for MAPC Negotiation Response
  • Others are TBD

 

No objection

 

SP7: Giovanni Chisci, MAP: 24/1220r1 – Result:

Do you support that when an AP use Management frames to discover the capabilities and/or parameters of individual M-AP coordination schemes, the AP shall use the defined MAPC Public Action frame with the following setting:

  • The action field is set to MAPC Discovery

 

 

No objection

SP8: Giovanni Chisci, MAP: 24/1220r1, 25/0378r0 – Result:

  • Do you support that, when an AP (AP1) uses an individually addressed Management frame to initiate a negotiation to establish agreements for M-AP coordination schemes (if enabled by another AP (AP2)), the AP (AP1) shall use the defined MAPC Public Action frame with the following setting:
    • The action field is set to MAPC Negotiation Request
  • If new negotiations are disabled by another AP (AP2) the AP (AP1) shall not send a negotiation request the other AP (AP2)

TBD details of ‘new negotiations disabled’

 

No objection

 

SP9: Giovanni Chisci, MAP: 24/1220r1 – Result:

  • Do you support that when an AP (AP2) receives an individually addressed Management frame that initiates a negotiation to establish agreements for M-AP coordination schemes, the AP (AP2) shall respond by using the defined MAPC Public Action frame with the following setting, if the negotiations are enabled:
    • The action field is set to MAPC Negotiation Response

No objection

 

SP10: Giovanni Chisci, MAP: 24/1220r1, 23/1887r1, 24/160r1, 24/908r0, 24/0407r0 – Result:

A Co-RTWT Requesting AP, shall include one or more Co-RTWT Parameter Set fields corresponding to each requested R-TWT schedule in the TBD individually addressed Management frame used for the request to the Co-RTWT Responding AP. The Co-RTWT Parameter Set field includes the following:

  • Target Wake Time field, Broadcast TWT ID field, Broadcast TWT Persistence,
  • TWT Wake Interval Mantissa, TWT Wake Interval Exponent, Nominal Minimum TWT Wake Duration

TBD other fields

 

Result: 97Y, 28N, 66A

 

SP11: Binita Gupta, L4S: – Result:

  • Do you agree to define in 11bn an optional mechanism for L4S support on the AP as below?
    • Define an MLME primitive that provides congestion notification from the MAC layer to the higher layer at the AP, to enable the upper layer to mark ECN bits on subsequent packets for L4S congestion signaling.
    • Enhance the MA-UNITDATA.request primitive to provide an indication whether the MSDU carries the packet of L4S flow
    • TBD on whether and how AP’s L4S capability is advertised.
    • NOTE 1 - This SP proposal is a further refinement of L4S-related SPs (39.2, 39.3) presented during Nov’24 Vancouver meeting’s TGbn MAC session 1791r1.
    • NOTE 2 - The conditions and criteria based on which the MAC layer determines to signal L4S congestion experienced notification to the upper layer is implementation specific and is outside the scope of this specification.
    • NOTE 3 – DCN 25/0459r0 shows a Proposed Draft Text (PDT) corresponding to this SP

Supporting documents: 24/0399, 24/0384, 24/0818, 25/459

 

Result: 120Y, 45N, 63A

 

SP 12-16 deferred

 

SP17: Liwen Chu, Low Latency: 421r0 – Result:

  • Do you agree to amend Motion #273 as following?
    • TGbn defines or improves an existing mechanism so that a non-AP STA that is a TXOP responder can indicate its buffered low latency LL traffic needs (for traffic from the TxOP TXOP responder to the TxOP TXOP Holder) in a Multi-STA BA frame. The TXOP holder should consider the indication in determining subsequent actions. Subsequent actions related to this indication are out of the scope of the standard.
      • Note: whether an AP can Indicate indicate its low latency needs is TBD
      • The Low Latency Indication is included in the Feedback field of the Feedback Per AID TID Info field (the one that carries control feedback).
      • The Feedback Type field (Located in B12 to B15 of the Block Ack Starting Sequence Control) is set to 1
        • Note: Feedback Type field set to 0 is used for DUO feedback
      • TBD bits in the Feedback field is defined to provide the low latency need.

 

No objection

 

SP18: Liwen Chu, Control: 25/425 – Result:

  • Do you support that an UHR STA that sets its NAV timer per the BSRP Trigger frame may reset its NAV timer if the following condition is true
    • No PHY-RXEARLYSIG.indication or PHYRXSTART.indication primitive is received from the PHY during a NAVTimeout period.
    • The NAVTimeout period is equal to (2 × aSIFSTime) + T_PREAMBLE + T_SIGNAL + UL_Length + aRxPHYStartDelay +  (2 × aSlotTime).

(see Table 17-5—Timing-related parameters)

 

Deferred

 

SP19: Jay Yang, MAP: 24/1693r3, 23/1836r3, 24/1220r2 – Result:

  • Do agree that TGbn defines a procedure using pre-association security negotiation (PASN ) to derive the key(s) needed to protect individually addressed management frames exchanged between two APs as part of the MAPC operation
  • •Note – it is TBD whether any extensions will be needed for PASN .

Supporting list: 24/1693r3, 23/1836r3, 24/1220r2

 

Deferred

 

SP20: Dmitry Akhmetov, Channel Access: 24/1918 – Result:

Do you support that a UHR STA may use P-EDCA

  • If P-EDCA is enabled by the AP to which that STA is associated to
    • Enablement procedure TBD
  • May transmit up to TBD but no more than 50 transmissions of DS and up to 2.5 ms of total transmission time to start P-EDCA contention over 50ms interval
    • Note: ETSI regulation of Short Control Signaling transmission
  • Shall not initiate more than TBD number of transmissions of DS to start P-EDCA consecutively.
    • Note: consecutive DS transmission are multiple attempts to perform P-EDCA contention w/o falling back to regular EDCA operation

Result: 56Y, 87N, 82A

 

DSO PDT

 

Do you support to incorporate the proposed text changes for DSO in 11-25/0454r6 into the latest TGbn draft

 

No objection

 

SP21: Binita Gupta, Roaming: 24/0656 – Result:

  • For seamless roaming, do you support to allow a non-AP MLD to request preparing more than one candidate target AP MLDs in an SMD during the roaming preparation phase?
    • Preparation with multiple AP MLDs is performed using a separate roaming preparation request for each AP MLD
    • If successful roaming preparation was performed with multiple candidate target AP MLDs, then the non-AP MLD shall attempt roaming execution with only one of those target AP MLDs at a time.
      • Retries with other target AP MLDs are permitted for roaming execution
    • TBD on policy indication from the AP on multiple target AP MLDs preparation

 

SP21: Binita Gupta, Roaming: 24/0656 – Result:

  • For seamless roaming, do you support to allow a non-AP MLD to request preparing more than one candidate target AP MLDs in an SMD during the roaming preparation phase?
    • Preparation with multiple AP MLDs is performed using a separate roaming preparation request for each AP MLD
    • If successful roaming preparation was performed with multiple candidate target AP MLDs, then the non-AP MLD shall attempt roaming execution with only one of those target AP MLDs at a time.
      • Retries with other target AP MLDs are permitted for roaming execution
    • TBD on policy indication from the AP on multiple target AP MLDs preparation

 

SPXX: Abhishek

 

Do you agree that the Co-TDMA sharing AP and the Co-TDMA coordinated AP shall have the same primary 20 MHz channel.

 

No objection

SPXX+1Binita Gupta 3/13/2025 6:55 AM • SP:
Do you support that for a Seamless Mobility Domain (SMD), the SMD and the 802.1X Authenticator component in the corresponding SMD-ME are uniquely identified by an SMD Identifier?
• The SMD identifier is in the format of a 48-bit MAC address
• The SMD Identifier is used in establishing single PMKSA and PTKSA for a non-AP MLD that associates with the SMD-ME
 

No objection

 

• 1) any objections to running the straw poll as presented 2) any objections to answering yes to the straw poll as presented

 

 

 


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