Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] 11bn LB291 CR request
Hi Laurent,
As you said you don't want to discuss the Rejected CIDs during the call, I'd like to discuss the resolution for CID 5976 in your doc 25/1930r2 within the reflector.
My intention here was to propose a more efficient way to indicate the availability (without sending the BSRP NTB TF).
If the STA can directly send a Data frame or Management frame when it becomes available, I think this is more efficient.
Hope to hear your feedback.
Best regards,
Yuki Fujimori
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Hi Laurent,
Thanks for resolving below CIDs. Could you please defer below CIDs?
CID 8044 8045 8047
CID 8044 unavailability reason define benefits for multiple cases,
* Benefit for scan executor to report off channel purpose meanwhile, peer could send assisting frames(Probe Request or Probe Response) in such period.
* Benefit for share unavailability reason to Coordinated AP in future to avoid 2.4G transmission and BT conflict
* Benefit for unavailability assisting to make decisions to suspend peer unavailability activities and prior to send low latency traffic.
CID 8045 - This controllable capability added in unavailability report, which is decided by unavailability reporter with simple indication.
And it will make unavailability reporter perform internal activities (e.g. off channel measure channel utilization) but still could balance peer’s low latency traffic.
CID 8047 – This service priority helps to balance reporter’s unavailability activities and unavailability assisting queue’s low latency/EPCS traffic. If this already motion fail, I’m OK keeping this CID in the document.
BR,
Kaikai
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Hi Laurent,
Thanks for handling this CRD. Could you please defer CID 9422?
I understand that the current 37.19.2 DUO is only allowed for non-AP STA, not for the AP. How about relocate this CID to an extra subclause related to AP's unavailability within MAPC scope under 37.19, for example, after the DUO?
Regards,
Jiayi Zhang, Ofinno
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Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] 11bn LB291 CR request
Hi George,
I won’t remove it from my document, and like any other CID, we’ll see if we defer for now during the discussion.
Surprised to see this request and even this CID being submitted because it is going against the agreement that the group reached after long and thorough analysis and discussions. What you are proposing is to change the agreement captured in the Specification Framework document since 2024, and that has been reconfirmed by following motions since then in the comment resolution phase, all with unanimous consent.
For a standard to make progress, we need to move forward and not backwards and not re-discuss/re-open previous agreements, because that opens the door to revisiting everything. You have rightfully expressed that point to the group many times already in the past and will probably do it again on many other topics. Would be good to be consistent on this.
Thanks,
Best regards,
Laurent
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Subject: RE: 11bn LB291 CR request
Thanks, Laurent, for resolving the comments on this section.
Can you remove CID 11536 from 25/1930. I object to the resolution. I will upload a resolution for this CID
Thanks
George
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For the request below for doc 25/1930.
Doc is now on the server: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-2045-00-00bn-d1-0-lb292-subclause-37-17-3.docx <https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-2045-00-00bn-d1-0-lb292-subclause-37-17-3.docx>
Thanks,
Laurent
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Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] 11bn LB291 CR request
Hi Alfred,
Please add the following CR doc to the TGbn agenda:
* 11-25/1930: CR LB291 MAC CIDs in subclause 37.19.2 part1
Thanks,
Laurent
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Hello Alfred,
Can you please help queue the following CR docs to the TGbn MAC agenda?
* 11-25/1912 LB291 - CR for MAPC element - Editorials 1 (14 CIDs)
* 11-25/1913 LB291 - CR for 37.15.1 MAPC common procedures - Editorials 2 (18 CIDs)
Regards,
Arik
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Hi Alfred,
Can you please help queue the following CR docs to the TGbn MAC agenda?
11-25/1835 LB291: CR for CIDs assigned to Abhi - Part 4
11-25/1836 LB291: CR for CIDs assigned to Abhi - Part 5
Regards,
Abhi
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Subject: RE: 11bn LB291 CR request
Hi Alfred,
Can you please help queue the following CR docs to the TGbn MAC agenda?
11-25/1826 LB291: CR for CIDs assigned to Abhi - Part 2
11-25/1834 LB291: CR for CIDs assigned to Abhi - Part 3
Regards,
Abhi
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Hi Alfred,
Can you please help queue the following CR doc to the TGbn MAC agenda?
11-25/1825 LB291: CR for CIDs assigned to Abhi - Part 1
Regards,
Abhi
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Hello Alfred,
Please help add the CR document to the MAC queue. It resolves 1 CID. Thank you!
23-Oct-2025 ET 2025 1859 0 TGbn 11bn LB291 CR for CID 4983 Kaidong Wang (Huawei)
Best regards,
Kaidong Wang
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Hi Alfred,
Please help to add following to the PHY queue, it has 8 CIDs.
22-Oct-2025 ET
2025
1837
1
TGbn
PHY-lb291-CIDs_subclause_38.3.15.12_ELR_SIG
intel
22-Oct-2025 18:29:52 ET
Download <https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-1837-01-00bn-phy-lb291-cids-subclause-38-3-15-12-elr-sig.docx> , Revise <https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/revise-document?t=10014300040%7F1>
Thanks,
Juan
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Hi Alfred,
Pls add the following to the MAC queue. It resolves 15 CIDs.
17-Oct-2025 ET
2025
1820
0
TGbn
LB291: CR for CIDs on UHR Parameters Update element - part 1
Gaurang Naik (Qualcomm)
All, please let me know if you have any feedback.
Thanks
Gaurang
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Subject: Re: 11bn LB291 CR request
Hi Alfred,
Please add the following CR document to the MAC queue. It resolves 23 CIDs.
2025
1816
0
TGbn
LB291: CR for CIDs on UHR Mode Change element - part 1
Gaurang Naik (Qualcomm)
Thanks
Gaurang
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Hi Alfred,
Please add the following CR documents into the queue, it contains 20 editorial CIDs.
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-1791-00-00bn-lb291-editorial-comments-part-1.docx <https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-1791-00-00bn-lb291-editorial-comments-part-1.docx>
regards
于健 Ross Jian Yu
Huawei Technologies
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