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I have received some feedback/comments/possible corrections from Mark RISON:

Please review and respond on this thread to help us resolve the CIDs in question.

For those items that are correction to the minutes I will post an R1 after we have a change to discuss the proposed corrections.

Jon

Here is his feedback on the minutes:

1.1.4 CID 7767 :

1.1.4.3 Proposed Resolution: Revised (page and line numbers from D5.2)

At line 3437.28: change “when object dot11PHYType has the value of ht” to “when object dot11PHYType is ht”.

At line 3437.41: change “when object dot11PHYType has the value of vht” to “when object dot11PHYType is vht”.

At line 3437.56: change “when object dot11PHYType has the value of tvht” to “when object dot11PHYType is tvht”.[mgr1]

[mgr1]What about “when object dot11PHYType is ERP” and “when the object dot11PHYType has the value of DMG”?

1.1.6 CID 7437 (GEN)

1.1.6.2 Proposed Resolution: REVISED (GEN: 2016-04-01 14:40:23Z) (page and line numbers from D5.2) At lines 3128.50, 3256.29, and 3370.61[mgr1] , delete "This field contains the fixed-point part of Altitude.".

[mgr1]What about the other two?

1.1.1.7 CID 7438 (GEN)

1.1.7.3 Proposed Resolution: REVISED (GEN: 2016-04-01 14:40:23Z) (page and line numbers from D5.2) At lines 3128.50, 3256.29, and 3370.61[mgr1] , delete "This field contains the fixed-point part of Altitude.".

[mgr1]What about the other two?

1.2.3 CID 7317 (MAC)

1.2.3.3 Proposed Resolution: REVISED. Make changes as shown in 11-16/290r2 < https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/16/11-16-0290-02-000m-resolutions-for-some-comments-on-11mc-d5-0.docx >, for CID 7317. These changes effect the commenter’s intent.[mgr1]

[mgr1]The new wording leads inescapably to the question “independently of what?”. How about turning it around as “shall not synchronise with other STAs”?

1.2.4 CID 7324 (MAC)

1.2.4.3 Proposed Resolution: REVISED. Make changes as shown in 11-16/290r2 < https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/16/11-16-0290-02-000m-resolutions-for-some-comments-on-11mc-d5-0.docx >, for CID 7324. These changes effect the commenter’s intent.[mgr1]

[mgr1]See my review comments on r1. Also, the proposed wording seems to suggest that the capabilities are not necessarily static

1.2.5 CID 7378 (MAC)

1.2.5.3 Proposed Resolution: REVISED. Change both occurrences of “PMK or PSK key identifiers” to “PMK identifiers” and “PMK or PSK key identifier” to “PMK identifier” (P126.47 and P126.49).[mgr1]

[mgr1]Why is this not an ACCEPTED?

JWR - the proposed change and the proposed Resolution are not the same. This proposed resolution changes 4 locations, not 2. for 2 locations the word "identifier " is plural.

1.3.3 CID 7543 (MAC)

1.3.3.2 Proposed Resolution: REVISED (MAC: 2016-04-01 15:26:47Z): Replace: “Unlike an AP providing RM capability, an AP Advertisement location capability does not return an “incapable” response if the non-APSTA requests the “remote” location.” with: “An AP that advertises its ability to provide its location in C[mgr1] ivic or geospatial format does not return an “incapable” response if a requesting STA requests the “remote” location.”

[mgr1]As I commented on r4, this should be lowercase

JWR: This may be a typo in the minutes, I would ask for those that were on the call to provide input if this is just a typo in the minutes?

1.3.6 CID 7648 (MAC)

1.3.6.2 Proposed Resolution: REVISED (MAC: 2016-04-01 15:31:44Z): Replace the “Notes” cell at 838.31 with:

“This field indicates support for PSMP operation. See 10.29 (PSMP Operation).

Set to 0 if the STA does not support PSMP operation

Set to 1 if the STA supports PSMP operation”[mgr1]

[mgr1]If PSMP can only be used in an infrastructure network, then maybe the better change is to say the bit is reserved in any other kind of network

1.3.9 CID 7494 (MAC)

1.3.9.2 Proposed Resolution: REVISED (MAC: 2016-04-01 15:38:46Z):

At 1076.07 replace: [mgr1]

"Single value TLV comprising fields in related table in …"

with:

"One or more TLV fields identified as a Device Identification Information Value field[mgr2] , as defined in …"

[mgr1]Or is it that the DII field can contain multiple TLVs (i.e. you have TLVs in a TLV)?

[mgr2]What does this mean?

1.3.12 CID 7539 (MAC)

1.3.12.5 Updated Proposed Resolution: REVISED (MAC: 2016-04-01 16:03:50Z): At 1287.34 replace "The STA shall discard the frame" with "The STA shall discard the frame it[mgr1] matches an entry in the cache".

At 1286.13 replace ", and RC9" with ", RC9, and RC10".

There is no need to add non-DMG to rows that cite RR1 and RR3. RC2, for example, cites RR1 and RR5. Because RR1 excludes DMG STAs, in a DMG STA RC2 is subject only to receiver requirement RR5. This is different from excluding RC2 itself from DMG STAs, which would leave them with no cache for QoS Data frames. [mgr2]

[mgr1]Missing “if”

[mgr2]Then add “(non-DMG STA)” to the RR1/3 invocations in RC1/2/4/6

JWR The Missing "if" will need to be added to the database as well as updates to the minutes.

1.5.1.4 New Proposed Resolution for CID 7702: REVISED (EDITOR: 2016-04-01 17:02:47Z) - Keeping "at the antenna" is consistent with other places in the document, however the sentence can be clarified as follows: Change:

"CCA shall report busy at least while a PPDU with energy above the ED threshold is being received at the antenna."

To:

"CCA shall report busy at least while a PPDU is being received with energy above the ED threshold at the antenna[mgr1] ."

[mgr1]This would be clearer as “"CCA shall report busy at least while a PPDU is being received with energy at the antenna above the ED threshold” (and similar for the other CID)

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On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Jon Rosdahl <jrosdahl@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

The minutes for the REVmc BRC Telecon April 1 has been posted:11-16/506r0:
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/16/11-16-0506-00-000m-telecon-minutes-for-revmc-brc-april-1-2016.docx

Corrections, Feedback or Comments welcomed,
Jon

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