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[STDS-802-11-TGM] Editorial and trivial technical comments for consideration in TGmc f2f



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Please be aware that certain comments in https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/15/11-15-0532-38-000m-revmc-sponsor-ballot-comments.xls  may be coming up for review and/or motion today or tomorrow in the TGmc f2f.

 

These are the “Resolution Drafted” comments,  which are identified by:

Owning ad-hoc = EDITOR

Resn Stats not blank

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Ad-hoc status not containing “Motion” or “Submission”.

 

This is the list that corresponds to this filter:

CID

Page

Clause

Resn Status

Comment

Proposed Change

Resolution

Owning Ad-hoc

Comment Group

Ad-hoc Status

Ad-hoc Notes

7184

V

There are multiple instances of "Handshake" (after PeerKey, TPK, 4-Way, (SMK), (STK), Mesh Group Key, SMK, (TPK), TDLS Setup, the, STK, PTK, TPK Security Protocol, GTK

Change all instances to "handshake", and adjust the surrounding words too if uppercase

REVISED (EDITOR: 2016-01-29 10:57:06Z) - Change "Message " to "message ", except where syntax requires initial cap.

Make changes as specified, except:
do not change case of preceeding: "Peer Key" or "PeerKey"
do not change when indicating an AKM enumeration
do not change "TPK Handshake Key"

EDITOR

Terminology

EDITOR: 2016-01-29 10:59:33Z - Made speculative edits. Changes as requested also implied changing "Message " to "message ", which was a far bigger job than changing "Handshake".

Another candidate change for consistency is to change "Supplicant" to "supplicant". I didn't make that change, because at some point I have to stop pulling on this thread or the whole jumper will dissappear in a puff of editing smoke.

7242

2908.03

C.3

J

It says "Time-out"

Change to "Timeout"

REJECTED (EDITOR: 2016-02-04 10:32:44Z) - This is an automatically inserted hyphen.

EDITOR

Editorials rejected

7251

J

It says "Awake Window"

Change to "awake window"

REJECTED (EDITOR: 2016-02-09 10:21:15Z) - The commenter doesn't indicate why "Awake Window" is incorrect, or where it is incorrect.
The proposed change is incorrect, because it would result in the incorrect "awake window element" and "Maximum awake window Duration field".

EDITOR

Editorials rejected

EDITOR: 2016-02-12 10:09:27Z - Mark R intends to bring a submission - similar to 7250.

EDITOR: 2016-02-09 10:21:08Z- Changed to "Rejected."

7269

548.08

8.3.4.2

A

"PHY-TXHEADEREND" is missing from Table 8-2---PHY-SAP inter-(sub)layer service primitives

Add a row for this, with an X in the Indication column

ACCEPTED (EDITOR: 2016-01-29 15:40:36Z)

EDITOR

PHY SAP

Adding content is not editorial. Changed to "PHY SAP".

7270

J

Characteristics should not be called "asomething" (or otherwise have the name of the PHY in the middle) since they are used by the MAC, which is supposed to be common for all PHYs

Delete "DMG" from aDMGPPMinListeningTime, aDMGDWSValidPeriod, aDMGDetectionThres and arguably also aCWminDMGIBSS, aMinPPDUDurationForDMGMeasurement

REJECTED (EDITOR: 2016-01-29 11:17:06Z) - "DMG" is a qualifier used in both the name of the PHY and the STA - "a DMG STA". It is entirely appropriate that DMG-specific characteristics are labelled thus.

EDITOR

Terminology

7326

J

Something has gone horribly wrong around here

Make it right

REJECTED (EDITOR: 2016-01-28 11:25:36Z) - The comment fails to identify a specific issue to be addressed. It fails to identify changes in sufficient detail so that the specific wording of the changes that will satisfy the commenter can be determined.

EDITOR

Editorials rejected

7327

563.01

9

J

"The UTF-8 format is defined in IETF RFC 3629." is superfluous

Delete the 2 instances of this sentence

REJECTED (EDITOR: 2016-01-29 15:44:44Z) - The cited sentence is not incorrect, and it is informative.

EDITOR

Editorials rejected

7374

V

It says "integral"

Delete when preceding "multiple", otherwise change to "integer"

REVISED (EDITOR: 2016-01-28 10:23:41Z) - Change all "integral" to "integer", except at 3581.57.

In reply to the commenter one of "integral" or "integer" may be necessary before "multiple" to make it clear that fractional multiples are not allowed, for example the text at 680.01 needs this qualification.

EDITOR

Editorials objected to

7409

2240.60

16.2.5

J

"by the MAC" in a PHY clause

Move to a MAC clause

REJECTED (EDITOR: 2016-02-02 13:19:29Z) - This is descriptive text - i.e., describing the purpose of the primitive. It does not contain any normative requirements for the MAC. Its presence here is appropriate.

EDITOR

Editorials rejected

7410

2209.41

J

"is issued to the MAC" -- it can't be issued to anything else

Delete "to the MAC" in all cases

REJECTED (EDITOR: 2016-01-28 10:01:00Z) - The cited text is not incorrect and may aid the reader.

EDITOR

Editorials rejected

7482

V

Per the resolution of CID 6126, "over the air" is too informal and "over the WM" is to be used. How about "on the air", "on-the-air", "the air interface"?

Change "on the air"/"on-the-air" to "over the WM" (about 17 instances) and "air interface" to "WM" (about 13 instances)

REVISED (EDITOR: 2016-01-28 12:19:57Z) - Change all "on the air" to "on the WM",
except change to "over the WM" at 1634.13.
Change all "on-the-air" to "over-the-WM".
Change all "at the air interface" to "on the WM".

EDITOR

Terminology

7490

A

Some instances of "backoff time" should be "backoff timer"

Change at 1272.56, 1273.25, 1290.64, 1291.28, 1291.29,

ACCEPTED (EDITOR: 2016-01-28 14:02:12Z)

EDITOR

Terminology

7522

27.63

3.2

J

We don't define STA for any other PHY

Delete the definition of DMG STA (and also DMG AP and maybe DMG BSS)

REJECTED (EDITOR: 2016-01-29 13:55:56Z) - DMG as a qualifier applies to more than just the PHY. It is defined by reference to the frequencies it operates in, but that does not limit the qualifier only to the PHY layer.

EDITOR

Editorials rejected

7582

J

"is IDLE", "indicates IDLE" etc. when not referring to the STATE argument should be lowercase. Ditto "BUSY"

. In D4.0 (possibly some fixed in CR): a PHY-CCA.indication primitive that is BUSYLowercase at 1279.8, 2200.8, 1293.2, 1364.44, 1364.50, 2259.6, 2217.21.5, 2217.56, 2241.62, 2244.55, 2302.25. Consider adding "medium" or "channel" where absent

REJECTED (EDITOR: 2016-01-29 11:22:46Z) - Comment does not indicate valid locations in the balloted draft.

EDITOR

Editorials rejected

EDITOR: 2016-01-29 11:23:24Z - Note to commenter, please do not provide references to previous versions of the draft. You can hardly expect the editors to want to do additional work that you can and should have done yourself.

7637

1951.01

12.5.3.4.4

J

This subclause keeps switching between "receiver" and "recipient"

Pick one and stick to it

REJECTED (EDITOR: 2016-02-04 10:25:33Z) - Both terms are equally valid and used commonly in the draft. There is no need to avoid use of one of them.

EDITOR

Editorials rejected

7638

1959.22

12.5.5.4.4

J

This subclause keeps switching between "receiver" and "recipient"

Pick one and stick to it

REJECTED (EDITOR: 2016-02-04 10:26:17Z) - Both terms are equally valid and used commonly in the draft. There is no need to avoid use of one of them.

EDITOR

Editorials rejected

7639

J

This spec keeps switching between "receiver" and "recipient"

Pick one and stick to it, at least within a subclause and siblings/cousins/children

REJECTED (EDITOR: 2016-01-28 10:14:48Z) - These terms are used as synonyms with roughly equally frequency. Their intended use is clear.

EDITOR

Editorials rejected

EDITOR: 2016-01-28 10:13:06Z - There are 593 "receiver" and 417 "recipient".

7652

1766.49

11.24.6.3

V

Move "The responding STA's selection of the format and bandwidth in the FTM Format and Bandwidth field should be the same as that requested by the initiating STA. The responding STA shall not choose a bandwidth wider than requested. The responding STA shall not choose a VHT format if HT-mixed or non-HT format was requested. The responding STA shall not choose an HT format if non-HT format was requested." to the "If the request was successful" below

As it says in the comment

REVISED (EDITOR: 2016-02-04 10:08:41Z) - Move the para to become the new first list item at 1767.01.

EDITOR

Frame Formats

Agree with commenter, but not editorial.

7663

716.28

9.4.1.53

J

It says "Transmitting STA does not support 160MHz PPDUs and transmitting STA does notsupport 80+80 MHz PPDUs."

Change to "Transmitting STA does notsupport 80+80 or 160 MHz PPDUs."

REJECTED (EDITOR: 2016-02-09 10:31:50Z) - The cited text is correct.

EDITOR

Editorials rejected

EDITOR: 2016-02-09 10:31:36Z - Updated resolution. Was previously: "The cited text is correct, and similar text is used elsewhere in this table."

7673

715.20

9.4.1.53

J

It says "The Dynamic Extended NSS BW field, combined with the Channel Width field,Supported Channel Width Set field and the Supported VHT-MCS and NSS Setfield indicates whether 80+80 MHz and 160 MHz operation is supported.In addition, the Dynamic Extended NSS BW Support field, combined with theSupported VHT-MCS and NSS Set field indicates extensions to the maximumNSS supported for each bandwidth of operation. "

Change to "The value of this field, combined with the Channel Width field,Supported Channel Width Set field and the Supported VHT-MCS and NSS Setfield, indicates whether 80+80 MHz and 160 MHz operation is supported.In addition, the value of this field, combined with theSupported VHT-MCS and NSS Set field, indicates extensions to the maximumNSS supported for each bandwidth of operation. "

REJECTED (EDITOR: 2016-02-01 16:41:34Z) - The comment does not indicate why the cited text is wrong - i.e., there is no rationale for the change.

EDITOR

Editorials rejected

7736

J

There are two instances of " usingthe hash algorithm defined for/by the negotiated AKM in Table 9-132" and one of "is the hash algorithm defined by the negotiated AKM specified in Table 9-132" compared with eight of " using the hash algorithm defined by the AKM in Table 9-132"

Change the three to "using/is the hash algorithm defined by the AKM in Table 9-132" too

REJECTED (EDITOR: 2016-01-28 11:32:09Z) - The cited text is correct, no change is necessary.

EDITOR

Editorials rejected

7737

J

There are 5 "hash function"s and 16 "hash algorithms"

Change the 5 to "hash algorithm"s

REJECTED (EDITOR: 2016-01-28 11:32:40Z) - Both terms are correct.

EDITOR

Editorials rejected

7754

J

There are 7 instances of "used by the MAC"

Delete "by the MAC" in all except the ones in Clause 17. At 199.55 also delete "entity that is being reset" and 556.19 also delete "sublayer"

REJECTED (EDITOR: 2016-01-29 11:19:31Z) - The cited text is not incorrect.

EDITOR

Editorials rejected

7758

J

3 instances of " the received status of up to 64 entries, where each entry representsan MSDU or an A-MSDU"

Change each to "the received status of up to 64 MPDUs, where each MPDU contains an MSDU or A-MSDU"

REJECTED (EDITOR: 2016-01-29 11:03:01Z) - The text as specified is correct. In the three cited locations there is a 1:1 mapping between entries and "MSDU or an A-MSDU".

EDITOR

Editorials rejected

7800

J

Various editorial issues were raised in yellow stuff in 14/1104

Address these editorial issues

REJECTED (EDITOR: 2016-01-29 10:10:06Z) - The comment fails to identify a specific issue to be addressed. It fails to identify changes in sufficient detail so that the specific wording of the changes that will satisfy the commenter can be determined.

EDITOR

Editorials rejected

7801

32.06

3.2

J

"This format is represented at the PHY data service access point (SAP) by the TXVECTOR/RXVECTOR FORMAT parameter being equal to HT_GF." is superfluous (not done for other cases)

Delete the cited sentence

REJECTED (EDITOR: 2016-01-29 14:03:33Z) - The cited sentence is not incorrect. There are at least two other occurrences of similar language, so "not done for other cases" is not correct.

EDITOR

Editorials rejected

7802

32.12

3.2

J

"This format is represented at the PHY data service access point (SAP) by the TXVECTOR/RXVECTOR FORMAT parameter being equal to HT_MF." is superfluous (not done for other cases)

Delete the cited sentence

REJECTED (EDITOR: 2016-01-29 14:04:50Z) - The cited sentence is not incorrect. There are at least two other occurrences of similar language, so "not done for other cases" is not correct.

EDITOR

Editorials rejected

7810

109.50

4.6

V

4.6 should talk about "non-802.11" not "wired", when considering other address spaces.

Replace "wired LAN" with "non-IEEE Std 802.11 LAN" (2 occurences in 4.6, one in 4.7)

REVISED (EDITOR: 2016-01-29 14:24:54Z) - Change 3 cited occurrences of "wired LAN" to "non-IEEE-Std-802.11 LAN".

EDITOR

Terminology

EDITOR: 2016-01-29 14:20:54Z - This is arguably non-editorial, so moved to "Terminology".

 

 

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