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[STDS-802-11-TGM] TGmc comment resolution spreadsheet uploaded



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--- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Task Group M Technical Reflector --- Dear TGmc participants,

I have uploaded an updated comment resolution spreadsheet here:
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/15/11-15-0532-61-000m-revmc-sponsor-ballot-comments.xls

I have supplied resolution of comments where I can.  Caveat,  this is all my personal opinion.
I have proposed only "reject" resolutions because I believe the will of the group is to terminate the ballot series asap.

The comment status is:
Owning Ad-hoc Unassigned Resolution Drafted Grand Total
EDITOR 8 40 48
IEEE-SA Editorial Coordination   1 1
Pass to publication editor   8 8
Reiteration   5 5
Reiteration of invalid comment   9 9
Scope   15 15
Valid new comment 2 1 3
Valid Pile-on 6 1 7
Grand Total 8 40 48

I have drafted rejection reasons for 40 of the comments.  I was not able to do this for 8 of the
comments.  I did add some analysis in the ad-hoc notes.  The comments follow:
comments
CID Page Clause Resn Status Comment Proposed Change Resolution Owning Ad-hoc Ad-hoc Status Ad-hoc Notes Motion #
9038 1072.48 9.4.2.174
(Follow-up to CID 8269) "The Estimated Air Time Fraction subfield is 8 bits in length and contains an unsigned integer that represents
the predicted percentage of time, linearly scaled with 255 representing 100%, that a new STA joining the
BSS will be allocated for PPDUs carrying Data of the corresponding AC for that STA." -- if you look at R.7 it turns out that this is exactly the time for the PPDUs, not including any contention/IFS time. This is a very subtle point (and differs from e.g. admission control)
Change the cited text at the referenced location to "The Estimated Air Time Fraction subfield is 8 bits in length and contains an unsigned integer that represents
the predicted percentage of air time (so not including interframe space), linearly scaled with 255 representing 100%, that a new STA joining the
BSS will be allocated for PPDUs carrying Data of the corresponding AC for that STA (so not including any Management or Control frames)."

EDITOR
EDITOR: 2016-08-23 09:01:03Z - This is a pile-on to comment 8269 (r02-269), which stated:
" "The Estimated Air Time Fraction subfield is 8 bits in length and contains an unsigned integer that represents
the predicted percentage of time, linearly scaled with 255 representing 100%, that a new STA joining the
BSS will be allocated for PPDUs carrying Data of the corresponding AC for that STA." -- if you look at R.7 it turns out that this is exactly the time for the PPDUs, not including any contention/IFS time. This is a very subtle point (and differs from e.g. admission control) "

with proposed change: " After the cited text add a "NOTE---This time is purely for the PPDUs and does not include overheads such as contention, IFS and protection frames." "

This was resolved thus: " proposed note is not viewed as necessary, as the cited text is clear. "

The new comment proposes changing the description of the subfield to indicate it does not include IFSs, Management, or Control frames.

9004 1096.39 9.4.5.21
It says "Country Code", but there is no such subfield in the Plan Information Tuple field Change "Country Code" to "Currency Code" at the referenced location
EDITOR
EDITOR: 2016-08-23 09:10:01Z - The comment is correct, and in scope.
9032 1626.47 11.3.5.4
(Follow-up to CID 8202) It is not clear whether TSPECs are preserved across reassociation to the same AP. Consider what happens if e.g. the TS Info Ack Policy is Block Ack (since the BA agreements have been reset). If reassociation to the same AP preserves TSes, you'd be left with a TS with BA policy without a BA agreement. 11.4.9.1 says "All TSPECs that have been set up shall be deleted upon disassociation and reassociation." (but note this contradicts 11.4.9.2's (DMG-only) "A non-AP and non-PCP STA that associates, disassociates or reassociates (except for reassociation to the same AP) shall locally delete all existing allocations and all TSs that have been established using a PTP TSPEC.")

Note that what other specifications do and don't do is not relevant to what the specification of IEEE Std 802.11 STAs are required to do.
At the end of the first numbered list in 11.3.5.4 add "TSes established by a TSPEC element whose TS Info Ack Policy subfield was equal to Block Ack". At the end of the second numbered list in 11.3.5.4 add "TSes established by a TSPEC element whose TS Info Ack Policy subfield was not equal to Block Ack". At 1646.36 change "All TSPECs that have been set up shall be deleted upon disassociation and reassociation. Reassociation
causes" to "All TSPECs that have been set up shall be deleted upon disassociation and upon reassociation to a different AP. Reassociation
to a different AP causes".

EDITOR
EDITOR: 2016-08-23 08:53:36Z - This is a pile-on to comment 8202 (r02-202), which stated:
" Are TSPECs preserved across reassociation to the same AP? What if e.g. the TS Info Ack Policy is Block Ack (since the BA agreements have been reset)? Although the list in 11.3.5.4 does not discuss this, my recollection is that reassociation to the same AP preserves TSes, so then you'd be left with a TS with BA policy without a BA agreement. My memory might be broken, since 1649.51 says "All TSPECs that have been set up shall be deleted upon disassociation and reassociation." (but this contradicts 1651.48's "A non-AP and non-PCP STA that associates, disassociates or reassociates (except for reassociation to the
same AP) shall locally delete all existing allocations and all TSs that have been established using a PTP
TSPEC.") "
With resolution: " Add TSPECs to the list of things that are destroyed on reassociation to the same AP "

This new comment has the same comment, but an alternative change, which preserves TSPECs on reassociation to the same AP.

The earlier comment was rejected with reason: " REJECTED (MAC: 2016-07-24 20:27:01Z): The CRC could not reach concensus on the changes necessary to address the comment.

Straw polls held:
July 21st Straw Poll:
A) Continue to work on the CID
B) Reject the CID – and not make a change
Results: 0-5-11 "

9014 2003.13 12.7.2
Per discussions and resolutions on D7.0, "CCMP" refers to any strength of CCMP. If a specific strength of CCMP is intended, it needs to be specified (compare Table 12-4 and Tables 9-131 and 9-132) Change "CCMP" to "CCMP-128" at the referenced location
EDITOR
EDITOR: 2016-08-23 09:10:53Z - The commenter is probably correct. But, I don't see any changes related to CCMP-128 in D7.0. Comment 6285 makes a similar change for GCMP, so I guess this can be interpreted as a pile-on.
9015 2003.16 12.7.2
Per discussions and resolutions on D7.0, "CCMP" refers to any strength of CCMP. If a specific strength of CCMP is intended, it needs to be specified. Presumably the same applies to BIP Change "BIP" to "BIP-CMAC-128" at the referenced location and also at 884.59 (first instance) in 9.4.2.55
EDITOR
EDITOR: 2016-08-23 09:11:17Z - Comment 6285 makes a similar change for GCMP. Interpreting this as a pile-on.
9031 2136.23 14.5.4
(Follow-up to CID 8325) 14.5.4 needs to cover IGTKdata not just GTKdata At the end of the last paragraph of the referenced subclause, add "The IGTKData subfield
in the Authenticated Mesh Peering Exchange element shall contain the Key ID concatenated by the IPN and the IGTK (as specified in 9.4.2.118 (Authenticated Mesh Peering Exchange
element))."
At 2144.24 change 9.4.2.118 to 14.5.4

EDITOR
EDITOR: 2016-08-22 12:54:57Z - This is a "pile-on" to comment 8324. That comment is not an unsatisfied comment, because the commenter did not indicate it had to be satisfied. The cited location did not change, but might reasonably be interpreted as affected by the changes from CID 8324.
9001 2450.33 20.4.3.3.3.
Lenght=1208 is invalid (maximum is 1023, intent is 128). in the next formula [(120-6]/8] should be [(128-6)/8] See document 16-1068
EDITOR
EDITOR: 2016-08-22 12:58:50Z - The text has been stable since D5.0. Agree that this is an error.
The first issue ("1208") is an editing error, since the resolution of comment 6225 clearly indicates. The second issue (120->128) is an error in the resolution of comment 6225, and is arguably a pile-on to that comment.

9033 3621.40 R.7
(Follow-up to CID 8222; see also CID 8260) It is claimed that one can determine "EstimatedThroughputInbound and EstimatedThroughputOutbound for each AC of a current or potential link to another STA using Equation (R-1)", but Equation (R-1) refers to EST_AirtimeFraction, which is defined as " the estimated portion of airtime that is available
for outbound transmissions", so does not work for inbound traffic
Delete "EstimatedThroughputInbound and" at 3621.40. At the end of R.7 add a para "The mechanism by which ESP STAs determine
values for EstimatedThroughputInbound is outside the scope of the standard."

EDITOR
EDITOR: 2016-08-23 08:57:02Z - This is a pile-on to comment 8222 (r02-222), which stated: " "EstimatedThroughputInbound and EstimatedThroughputOutbound for each AC of a current or
potential link to another STA using Equation (R-1)", but Equation (R-1) is just about estimating EstimatedThroughput and there is no indication how the Inbound and Outbount estimates are derived from this "
with proposed change: " Change "timatedThroughput =" at line 45 to "EstimatedThroughputInbound = EstimatedThroughputOutbound =" "

This was resolved as follows: " REJECTED (GEN: 2016-07-28 21:50:31Z) ) at 3623.40 the text indicates the equation can be used for either inbound or outbound. "

The new comment has an alternative change - to make the calculation of EstimatedThroughputInbound explicitly unspecified.



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Adrian Stephens
IEEE 802.11 Working Group Chair
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