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On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 11:15 PM shiwen.he.hn@xxxxxxxxxx <shiwen.he.hn@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Mike,

I have added the resolutions for the comments you concerned. The details please see the attached.

Shiwen

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Shiwen He
Central South University
School of Computer Science and Engineering
Address: Lushan South Road #932, Changshang
Postcode: 410083
Tel: 15388971838
E-mail: shiwen.he.hn@csu.edu.cn
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From: M Montemurro
Date: 2019-07-03 21:59
To: shiwen.he.hn@xxxxxxxxxx
CC: jiamin.chen; mark.hamilton2152; m.rison; Dorothy Stanley; hmwang
Subject: Re: Reply: Re: Reply: Re: 11md LB 236 comment resolutions for 11aj-related comments
Hi Jaimin and Shiwen,

I was wondering whether you could also take a look at these two comments and provide a proposed resolution? I can bring these up at some point during one of the 11md sessions.

REVmd WG CC Comments

2035 3480.00 25.5.6.4 $N_{TXT}$ is not previously defined (appears first in table 25-12) Define it!

2357 Do not introduce a separate CMMG Control. Do like everything else and have a CMMG-variant HT Control Revert the changes to Figure 9-2. In 9.2.4.1.10 change the last bullet to "It is set to 1 in a QoS Data or Management frame transmitted by a CMMG STA to indicate that the frame contains an CMMG variant HT Control field.". In 9.2.4.6.4 and Table 9-314 and 10.32 and 10.33.4 and 10.35.5 change "CMMG Control field" and "CMMG control field" to "CMMG variant HT Control field" throughout. Delete Subclause 10.9. In 10.35.5 delete "The procedures in this subclause apply to CMMG PPDUs for which the CMMG Control field, if present, is the CMMG Control field." (gibberish)

Also, the following two comments are assigned to Assaf but I'd like your feedback (or at least the rationale why the original text was written this way.

REVmd WG CC Comments

2041 3448.00 25.5.7.2.2 CCA is based on senstivity of MCS0, which is not defined in the standard. The quoted numbers fir the sensitiviy for SC MCS1. change MCS0 to MCS1

2042 3508.00 25.6.9.3.2 CCA is based on senstivity of MCS0, which is not defined in the standard. The quoted numbers fir the sensitiviy for SC MCS1. change MCS0 to MCS1

Thanks,

Mike

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 4:40 AM shiwen.he.hn@xxxxxxxxxx <shiwen.he.hn@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Jiamin

I have tried to send email again, today and am waiting for the response.

Thanks

Shiwen

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Shiwen He
Central South University
School of Computer Science and Engineering
Address: Lushan South Road #932, Changshang
Postcode: 410083
Tel: 15388971838
E-mail: shiwen.he.hn@csu.edu.cn
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From: Jiamin Chen
Date: 2019-07-03 16:25
To: shiwen.he.hn@xxxxxxxxxx; mark.hamilton2152; montemurro.michael
CC: m.rison; 'Dorothy Stanley'; hmwang
Subject: Re: Reply: Re: 11md LB 236 comment resolutions for 11aj-related comments

Hi Shiwen,

You can try once again with no other recipients.

Thanks,

Jiamin

发件人: shiwen.he.hn@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:shiwen.he.hn@xxxxxxxxxx]
发送时间: 2019年7月3日 9:24
收件人: Jiamin Chen <jiamin.chen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; mark.hamilton2152 <mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx>; montemurro.michael <montemurro.michael@xxxxxxxxx>
抄送: m.rison <m.rison@xxxxxxxxxxx>; 'Dorothy Stanley' <dstanley1389@xxxxxxxxx>; hmwang <hmwang@xxxxxxxxxx>
主题: Reply: Re: 11md LB 236 comment resolutions for 11aj-related comments

Hi Jiamin

I have tried to send an email including our resolution to Assaf on 29 May, 2019. But the email was not delivered successfully, told me as:

"Your email could not reach your intended recipient(s) akasher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx due to the company's email policy."

Shiwen

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Shiwen He

Central South University

School of Computer Science and Engineering

Address: Lushan South Road #932, Changshang

Postcode: 410083

Tel: 15388971838

E-mail: shiwen.he.hn@csu.edu.cn

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From: Jiamin Chen

Date: 2019-07-03 09:11

To: mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx; 'M Montemurro'

CC: 'Mark Rison'; 'Dorothy Stanley'; shiwen.he.hn@xxxxxxxxxx; 'hmwang'

Subject: Re: 11md LB 236 comment resolutions for 11aj-related comments

Hi Mark，

I am sorry I thought Assaf sent out some new comments in the email on June 26 (I saw his email is in green in the email history below).

Yes，we have received the comments contained in the doc in your email months ago and proposed compounding resolutions.

We are waiting for Assaf’s feedback to those resolutions if I understand correctly.

I could not contact him via email may be due to the email server policy.

Shiwen, could you please contact Assaf to collect his feedback and update the resolution if needed?

Hopefully we can reach consensus with him.

Thanks,

Best Regards,

Jiamin

发件人: mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx]
发送时间: 2019年7月3日 1:42
收件人: 'M Montemurro' <montemurro.michael@xxxxxxxxx>; Jiamin Chen <jiamin.chen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
抄送: 'Mark Rison' <m.rison@xxxxxxxxxxx>; 'Dorothy Stanley' <dstanley1389@xxxxxxxxx>; shiwen.he.hn@xxxxxxxxxx; 'hmwang' <hmwang@xxxxxxxxxx>
主题: RE: 11md LB 236 comment resolutions for 11aj-related comments

Jiamin,

Are you missing this attached document from Assaf, perhaps? (This is a little old at this point, so Michael’s notes and green highlight are probably newer than Assaf’s comments, FYI.) Otherwise, I’m not sure what you’re asking of me for “the latest comments from Assaf”.

Mark

From: M Montemurro <montemurro.michael@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 9:46 AM
To: Jiamin Chen <jiamin.chen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx; Mark Rison <m.rison@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Dorothy Stanley <dstanley1389@xxxxxxxxx>; shiwen.he.hn@xxxxxxxxxx; hmwang <hmwang@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 11md LB 236 comment resolutions for 11aj-related comments

Jaimin,

Thanks again for your help in addressing these comments. The comment resolutions highlighted in green are comments that we have reached consensus on the resolution and are ready for motion.

The remaining comments are: CID 2048, CID 2029, and CID 2387. They are pending a review with Assaf.

I think we're in pretty good shape for 11aj comments. The plan is to recirculate the draft based on these resolutions.

Cheers,

Mike

On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 4:31 AM Jiamin Chen <jiamin.chen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello Mark，

Thanks for the coordination efforts.

Could you let us know the latest comments from Assaf? We will try to reach consensus once get it.

Hello Michael，

Thanks for uploading 11-19/1034.

Could you let us know your comments or what does the text in green mean?

Thanks,

For other 11aj related CIDs, please let me assume that we have come to the consensus with the commenters if no further comments receive.

Thank you all very much.

Best Regards,

Jiamin

发件人: mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx]
发送时间: 2019年7月2日 8:16
收件人: 'Assaf Kasher' <akasher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; m.rison@xxxxxxxxxxx; dstanley1389@xxxxxxxxx; 'M Montemurro' <montemurro.michael@xxxxxxxxx>; Jiamin Chen <jiamin.chen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
主题: RE: 11md LB 236 comment resolutions for 11aj-related comments

+ Jiamin

All, do we think we’ll come to consensus on these comments, and have an updated 11-19/1034 ready to present? Dorothy has CID 2678 on the agenda for the July 11 teleconference.

Thanks. Mark

From: Assaf Kasher <akasher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 1:51 AM
To: m.rison@xxxxxxxxxxx; Dorothy Stanley <dstanley1389@xxxxxxxxx> (dstanley1389@xxxxxxxxx) <dstanley1389@xxxxxxxxx>; mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx; M Montemurro (montemurro.michael@xxxxxxxxx) <montemurro.michael@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: 11md LB 236 comment resolutions for 11aj-related comments

Hello,

Attached is the document with a couple of my comments.

Thanks,

   Assaf

From: Mark Rison <m.rison@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 11:58 PM
To: Dorothy Stanley <dstanley1389@xxxxxxxxx> (dstanley1389@xxxxxxxxx) <dstanley1389@xxxxxxxxx>; mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx; M Montemurro (montemurro.michael@xxxxxxxxx) <montemurro.michael@xxxxxxxxx>; Assaf Kasher <akasher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: FW: 11md LB 236 comment resolutions for 11aj-related comments

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization.

Mark

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From: Mark Rison
Sent: 11 May 2019 20:11
To: M Montemurro <montemurro.michael@xxxxxxxxx>; Assaf Kasher <akasher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Qi, Emily H <emily.h.qi@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Stanley, Dorothy <dorothy.stanley@xxxxxxx>; Mark Hamilton <mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx>; Jiamin Chen <jiamin.chen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; shiwenhe@xxxxxxxxxx; Haiming Wang (SEU) <hmwang@xxxxxxxxxx>; Dejian Li <dejian.li@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: 11md LB 236 comment resolutions for 11aj-related comments

Hello,

Thanks for these resolutions. I attach my comments.

Xiexie,

Mark

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Mark RISON, Standards Architect, WLAN   English/Esperanto/Français

Samsung Cambridge Solution Centre       Tel: +44 1223 434600

Innovation Park, Cambridge CB4 0DS      Fax: +44 1223 434601

ROYAUME UNI                             WWW: http://www.samsung.com/uk

From: M Montemurro <montemurro.michael@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 7 May 2019 13:29
To: Mark Rison <m.rison@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Assaf Kasher <akasher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Qi, Emily H <emily.h.qi@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Stanley, Dorothy <dorothy.stanley@xxxxxxx>; Mark Hamilton <mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx>; Jiamin Chen <jiamin.chen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; shiwenhe@xxxxxxxxxx; Haiming Wang (SEU) <hmwang@xxxxxxxxxx>; Dejian Li <dejian.li@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 11md LB 236 comment resolutions for 11aj-related comments

Those in the To: list,

Attached is a document containing comment resolutions that were prepared by Jiamin and team to address your comments. Could you please review and possibly start a dialog so see if we can come up with resolutions over email?

Thanks,

Mike

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2035	3480.00	25.5.6.4			$N_{TXT}$ is not previously defined (appears first in table 25-12)	Define it!
2357					Do not introduce a separate CMMG Control. Do like everything else and have a CMMG-variant HT Control	Revert the changes to Figure 9-2. In 9.2.4.1.10 change the last bullet to "It is set to 1 in a QoS Data or Management frame transmitted by a CMMG STA to indicate that the frame contains an CMMG variant HT Control field.". In 9.2.4.6.4 and Table 9-314 and 10.32 and 10.33.4 and 10.35.5 change "CMMG Control field" and "CMMG control field" to "CMMG variant HT Control field" throughout. Delete Subclause 10.9. In 10.35.5 delete "The procedures in this subclause apply to CMMG PPDUs for which the CMMG Control field, if present, is the CMMG Control field." (gibberish)

2041	3448.00	25.5.7.2.2			CCA is based on senstivity of MCS0, which is not defined in the standard. The quoted numbers fir the sensitiviy for SC MCS1.	change MCS0 to MCS1
2042	3508.00	25.6.9.3.2			CCA is based on senstivity of MCS0, which is not defined in the standard. The quoted numbers fir the sensitiviy for SC MCS1.	change MCS0 to MCS1

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