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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] Resolution for CIDs 4005 through 4012

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Hi Mark,

For MIB, we follow the recommendation in Annex C.2 to draft it based on IETF RFC 4181 (http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4181.txt).    In Section 3, there is a requirement that "In general, each normative reference SHOULD point to the most recent version of the specification in question".

In Annex C.3, 
[1]  We have approximately 50 MIB variables that cite a particular subclause (or subclauses) of the latest version of the IEEE 802.11 standards as a normative reference, whereas the remaining MIB variables do not.  
[2]  There are also a few MIB modules that talks about an object (or objects) of an OBJECT-GROUP  is deprecated in the latest version of the  IEEE 802.11 standards, and therefore the OBJECT-GROUP is superseded by a new group.

It would be a good discussion during the CRC call on April 22.

Regards,
Edward


On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 7:04 PM <mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

All,

 

I’ll repeat a comment I made previously (maybe on the same call where we did 4184, 4185, and 4186?):  Why are we fixing these REFERENCEs instead of just removing them?  Is there a rule/suggestion that they are helpful (in some Editor’s Guide, etc.)?  Given that the vast majority of our MIB attributes don’t have one, and nobody has ever complained (or even noticed) about the missing ones, I would just remove them all.

 

Mark

 

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Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] Resolution for CIDs 4005 through 4012

 

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Acknowledged, Dorothy, and Jon.

 

DCN is 20/0629r0, Proposed resolutions for CIDs related to the date of publication of the references in MIB.

 

Regards,
Edward

 

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 6:32 PM Dorothy Stanley <dstanley1389@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thank you very much Edward.

 

Will add you to the April 22nd agenda.

 

Dorothy

 

 

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 3:25 PM Edward Au <edward.ks.au@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Dorothy,

 

Please assign these CIDs to me.   Because of the proposed change suggested, especially in CID 4012, I believe I need to update the approved resolution of CIDs 4184, 4185, and 4186 (which was assigned to EDITOR2 ad-hoc) to make sure that the resolution of these comments are consistent. 

 

Would you also allocate about 30 minutes to me to present the proposed resolutions of these CIDs on April 22?

 

Regards,
Edward

 

 

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 6:05 PM Dorothy Stanley <dstanley1389@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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Jon, Emily, Edward,

 

While these CIDs are appropriately assigned to GEN, they are largely editorial in nature as we discussed on a prior teleconference.

 

Emily and Edward, would either or both of you be able to prepare a comment resolution document for CIDs 4005 through 4012?

 

Thank you,

 

Dorothy

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REVmd WG CC Comments

4005

4175.00

C.3

dot11EDCATable refers to IEEE Std 802.11-2012

Replace "IEEE Std 802.11-2012, 10.2.3.2 (HCF contention based channel access
(EDCA))" with "IEEE Std 802.11-2020, 10.2.3.2 (HCF contention based channel access
(EDCA))"

4006

4178.00

C.3

dot11QAPEDCATable refers to IEEE Std 802.11-2012

Replace "IEEE Std 802.11-2012, 10.2.3.2 (HCF contention based channel access
(EDCA))" with "IEEE Std 802.11-2020, 10.2.3.2 (HCF contention based channel access
(EDCA))"

4007

4179.00

C.3

dot11QAPEDCATableTXOPLimit refers to 802.11-2016

Replace "REFERENCE IEEE Std 802.11-2016, 9.4.2.28 (EDCA Parameter Set element)" with "REFERENCE IEEE Std 802.11-2020, 9.4.2.28 (EDCA Parameter Set element)"

4008

4192.00

C.3

dot11BSSLoadAvailableAdmissionCapacity refers to 802.11-2016

Replace " REFERENCE "IEEE Std 802.11-2016, 9.4.2.27 (BSS Load element) "" with " REFERENCE "IEEE Std 802.11-2020, 9.4.2.27 (BSS Load element) ""

4009

4195.00

C.3

dot11TempType refers to 802.11-2016

Replace "The use of dot11TempType is deprecated because no associated behavior is described in IEEE Std 802.11-2016" with "The use of dot11TempType is deprecated because no associated behavior is described in IEEE Std 802.11-2020"

4010

4212.00

C.3

dot11HoppingPatternTable refers to 802.11-2016

Replace 802.11-2016 with 802.11-2020

4011

4212.00

C.3

dot11HoppingPatternEntry refers to 802.11-2016

Replace 802.11-2016 with 802.11-2020

4012

3811.00

C.3

Within C.3 there are several occurrences of references to 802.11-2012 or 802.11-2016. These references need to be updated

In clause C.3, replace 802.11-2012 or 802.11-2016 with 802.11-2020 resp. 802.11-2021 when this draft standard will be published.

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