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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] GEN AdHoc CID 372 - TA field vs transmitter address (TA) field.



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Further to the email discussion, from the May 24th Minutes:

1.1.1. CID 372 (GEN):

1.1.1.1.              Reviewed proposed resolution, to add “(TA)” after “transmitter address”.

1.1.1.2.              The field is just called “TA” field.  We don’t need to expand the name.

1.1.1.3.              Straw Poll:

Proposed Resolution for CID 372

A)     Change "...transmitter address field..." to "...transmitter address (TA) field…"

B)     Change to "...transmitter address field..." to "...TA field…"

C)     Abstain.

1.1.1.4.              Results: 4-4-2 (8 no response)

1.1.1.5.              Consider rejecting?  Disagree with rejecting, no one is speaking in favor of the existing text.  Existing text says “transmitter address field” which is not a defined field.

1.1.1.6.              ACTION ITEM #4: Emily (Editor): Will bring to Working Group editor to ask for their input on CID 372:  Change "...transmitter address field..." to "...transmitter address (TA) field…" or "...TA field…" or something else.

1.1.1.6.1.                     If the editors agree to expand the terms (in field names, in the definitions), we should do that consistently throughout.

1.1.1.7.              (From Chat: Unexpanded terms in D0.0: HT Control, QoS Control field, Management MIC element, RDG/More PPDU subfield, EOF subfield, FILS Authentication frame, DMG Beacon frame, VHT Capabilities element)

1.1.1.8.              Will bring back.

1.1.1.9.              Move to Comment Group: “Definitions Clause 3” and Status = Discuss.

Regards,
Jon
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On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 4:00 PM Jon Rosdahl <jrosdahl@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Greetings,
In an effort to clean up the remaining CIDs, we started to review what we had discussed last May.

Context: p199.51(D0.0)
"transmitted  basic  service  set  identifier  (BSSID):  The  BSSID  included  in  the  medium  access  control (MAC) header transmitter address field of a Beacon frame when the multiple BSSID capability is supported."

Comment:
"transmitted  basic  service  set  identifier  (BSSID):  The  BSSID  included  in  the  medium  access  control
(MAC) header transmitter address field of a Beacon frame when the multiple BSSID capability is supported." -- "transmitter address" should be "TA" since the field is referred to as the TA field

Proposed change: "As it says in the comment"

Proposed Resolution: Revised
on p199.51

Straw Poll for a Proposed Resolution for CID 372:
         A) Change "...transmitter address field..." to "...transmitter address (TA) field…"
         B) Change to "...transmitter address field..." to "...TA field…"
         C) Abstain.
      Results: 4-4-2 (8 no response)


Proposed Resolution: Revised
p199.51
Change "...transmitter address field..." to "...transmitter address (TA) field…"


Discussion:
There are 32 instances of "transmitter address" in the D0.0 standard.

In the definitions clause 3.2, transmitter address is used 3 times:
p175.58: "bandwidth signaling transmitter address (TA): A TA that is used......"
p187.27: "nonbandwidth signaling transmitter address (TA): An address in the TA field of an medium access"
p199.51(D0.0) - one in question.
"transmitted  basic  service  set  identifier  (BSSID):  The  BSSID  included  in  the  medium  access  control (MAC) header transmitter address field of a Beacon frame when the multiple BSSID capability is supported."
In clause 3.4 Acronyms:
TA          transmitter address or transmitting station address
TTAK      TKIP-mixed transmitter address and key

The use of "transmitter address" followed by (TA) in two of 3 instances in the definition clause leads to justification for using it in the 3rd definition.  Interesting the TA in the first two instances has a pre adjective given in both cases, but the acronym TA is used without the pre adjective when used in the definition.
The "Medium Access Control (MAC)" is spelled out and an acronym given, which also gives support for the use of transmitter address (TA).
There are 8 instances of "transmitter address (TA)" in the standard.

Your feedback and thoughts on which of the two solutions should be used is welcome,
Regards,
Jon

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Jon Rosdahl                             Engineer, Senior Staff
IEEE 802 Executive Secretary   Qualcomm Technologies, Inc.
office: 801-492-4023                  10871 North 5750 West
cell:   801-376-6435                   Highland, UT 84003

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A Family is necessary to be happy!!

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