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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] CID 359 "Natural Binary"

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Thanks Jouni,

One other thing to note is that this sentence has been in the standard since 802.11-1999. 

Personally, I haven't seen any justification to demonstrate that this text is actually causing confusion or interoperability issues. Given the text and its context, we should just leave it as is.

Cheers,

Mike

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 6:49 PM Jouni Malinen <jkmalinen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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I'm interpreting this to be a reference to Natural Binary Code, i.e., the key point here is in the values shown (in the standard text, figures, tables) in the decimal notation getting encoded in binary and not in Gray code, BCD, or ASCII, etc. While this might be at least implicitly described elsewhere, it would seem reasonable to maintain this explicit statement in the Conventions subclause. As such, I guess the comment could be rejected, but based on the discussion and numerous interpretations/guesses brought up during the discussion, it might be better to delete the word "natural" here with the expectation of "coded in binary" being easier to understand or at least less likely to produce wild guesses of what is natural or unnatural about the binary encoding. Another alternative approach would be to define "natural binary" or reference "natural binary code", but I'm not convinced this would be the best approach for the IEEE 802.11 standard unless a clearly understood, externally defined term could be used as-is. 

- Jouni


On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 12:44 AM Stephen McCann <mccann.stephen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Dear all,
               during today's REVme call, we discussed CID 359:

CID

Page

Line

Clause

Comment

Proposed Change

Resolution

359

774

33

9.2.2

"Values specified in decimal are coded in natural binary unless otherwise stated. " -- how does natural binary differ from unnatural binary?

Delete the cited sentence



There was no convergence on an opinion as to how to resolve this, so I'm requesting your feedback. The discussion was regarding the term "natural binary" and whether this is different from "binary".  Thanks.

Kind regards

Stephen

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