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--- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Working Group Reflector ---> there are products supporting these capabilities and those are being deployed in new devices. As an example, the Linux kernel mac80211 component has support for MBSS and there are number of drivers that support this capability and as far as I know, this is being used in deployed devices.
That of itself it no barrier to deprecation. I think TKIP (probably
WEP too!) is still being deployed in some new devices, even though
it's deprecated.
> What does the "not being maintained" claim try to say here? MBSS has been extended to support VHT and HE both in the standard and in a deployed implementation.
Yes, the claim is certainly debatable. However, my experience has been
that the pool of IBSS/PBSS/MBSS SMEs is very small, and so one can't
rely on the expertise being there and available to look into this or
that maintenance point.
Thanks,
Mark
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From: Jouni Malinen <jkmalinen@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2022 15:11
To: STDS-802-11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11] Deprecation of IBSS, MBSS and/or PBSS (11me/D1.0 CIDs 1639, 1640 and 1641)
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Those comments do not seem to provide any real justification for deprecating IBSS, PBSS, or MBSS. It would be helpful to get some actual data to back up the claim/implication of no one caring about these.. And doing that is going to be quite challenging taken into account there are likely quite a few people who do care. In fact, there are products supporting these capabilities and those are being deployed in new devices. As an example, the Linux kernel mac80211 component has support for MBSS and there are number of drivers that support this capability and as far as I know, this is being used in deployed devices.
What does the "not being maintained" claim try to say here? MBSS has been extended to support VHT and HE both in the standard and in a deployed implementation.
- Jouni
On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 12:27 PM Mark Rison <m.rison@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
--- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Working Group Reflector ---
11me/D1.0 CIDs 1639, 1640 and 1641 propose to mark IBSS, PBSS and MBSS
respectively as deprecated, on the basis that it is not clear anyone cares
about these modes of operation anymore, and that they are not being
maintained (or alternatively one could say the cost of maintaining
them is not worth it, or the expertise needed to maintain them is
lacking).
This thread is to solicit opinions on these proposals.
Thanks,
Mark
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