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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] 11me/D1.0 CID 2220 and 2224 in 22/0565r4



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I'm not delighted by "transmit a group addressed BSS Transition Management Request frame"

because it suggests that you could multicast the frame, especially with

the subsequent "to associated non-AP STAs".  I think it would be better to be clear

that the frame is either unicast or broadcast, nothing else.  If

"may broadcast an X frame" is not liked, then I'd be OK with

"may transmit a broadcast X frame".

 

Thanks,

 

Mark

 

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From: huangguogang <000017b1384624cd-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, 13 May 2022 08:32
To: STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGM]
答复: 11me/D1.0 CID 2220 and 2224 in 22/0565r4

 

--- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Task Group M Technical Reflector ---

Hi Mark and all,

 

I received some comments from Payam, as shown in below. Please share your opinion on these editorial changes. If there is no objection, we can motion on 0565r5.

 

(Editorial) Revert to existing text. Baseline text uses “transmit a group addressed frame”, “transmit a frame with Address 1 field set to broadcast address”, or similar, instead of “broadcast a frame” (we have broadcasting information, elements etc., but not frames -- there are two exceptions from 11ad text (P2402L41, P2443L6) – uncommon).

 

 

So I post the changes as follows and review 22/0565r5.

 

11.21.7.3         BSS transition management request

An AP that supports BSS transition management shall respond to a BSS Transition Management Query frame with a BSS Transition Management Request frame. The AP may send an unsolicited BSS Transition Management Request frame to a non-AP STA at any time if the non-AP STA indicates in the Extended Capabilities element that it support BSS transition management; otherwise the AP shall not send an unsolicited BSS Transition Management Request frame to the STA. The AP may transmit a group addressed BSS Transition Management Request frame to associated non-AP STAs if all associated non-AP STAs support the BSS transition management; otherwise the AP shall not transmit a group addressed BSS Transition Management Request frame. When the BSS Transition Management Request frame is transmitted as a group addressed frame, a receiving non-AP STA shall not respond with a BSS Transition Management Response frame. A non-AP STA that supports BSS transition management shall respond to an individually addressed BSS Transition Management Request frame with a BSS Transition Management Response frame.

 

11.21.7.4 BSS transition management response

The AP’s SME may terminate or delay BSS Termination based on policies that are out of the scope of this standard. The MLME-RESET.request primitive is invoked to terminate the BSS. The AP shall disassociate all STAs immediately prior to termination of the BSS.

 

>>>>>>>>>>> 

 

 

11.21.7.3         BSS transition management request

An AP that supports BSS transition management shall respond to a BSS Transition Management Query frame with a BSS Transition Management Request frame. The AP may send an unsolicited BSS Transition Management Request frame to a non-AP STA at any time if the non-AP STA indicates in the Extended Capabilities element that it support BSS transition management; otherwise the AP shall not send an unsolicited BSS Transition Management Request frame to the STA. The AP may transmit a group addressed BSS Transition Management Request frame if at least one associated non-AP STA supports BSS transition management; otherwise the AP shall not transmit a group addressed BSS Transition Management Request frame. When the BSS Transition Management Request frame is transmitted as a group addressed frame, a receiving non-AP STA shall not respond with a BSS Transition Management Response frame. A non-AP STA that supports BSS transition management shall respond to an individually addressed BSS Transition Management Request frame with a BSS Transition Management Response frame.

 

11.21.7.4 BSS transition management response

The AP’s SME may abandon or delay its BSS termination decision based on policies that are out of the scope of this standard. The MLME-RESET.request primitive is invoked to terminate the BSS. The AP shall disassociate all STAs immediately prior to termination of the BSS.

 

发件人: huangguogang [mailto:000017b1384624cd-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
发送时间: 2022427 17:40
收件人: STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
主题: [STDS-802-11-TGM] 答复: 11me/D1.0 CID 2220 and 2224 in 22/0565r4

 

--- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Task Group M Technical Reflector ---

Hi Mark,

 

Many thanks for correcting the text. So I repost the changes as follows.

 

Hi all,

 

Please note that the following changes are ready for motion under CID 2220 and 2224 in 22/0565r4.

 

11.21.7.3         BSS transition management request

An AP that supports BSS transition management shall respond to a BSS Transition Management Query frame with a BSS Transition Management Request frame. The AP may send an unsolicited BSS Transition Management Request frame to a non-AP STA at any time if the non-AP STA indicates in the Extended Capabilities element that it support BSS transition management; otherwise the AP shall not send an unsolicited BSS Transition Management Request frame to the STA. The AP may transmit a group addressed BSS Transition Management Request frame to associated non-AP STAs if all associated non-AP STAs support the BSS transition management; otherwise the AP shall not transmit a group addressed BSS Transition Management Request frame. When the BSS Transition Management Request frame is transmitted as a group addressed frame, a receiving non-AP STA shall not respond with a BSS Transition Management Response frame. A non-AP STA that supports BSS transition management shall respond to an individually addressed BSS Transition Management Request frame with a BSS Transition Management Response frame.

 

11.21.7.4 BSS transition management response

The AP’s SME may terminate or delay BSS Termination based on policies that are out of the scope of this standard. The MLME-RESET.request primitive is invoked to terminate the BSS. The AP shall disassociate all STAs immediately prior to termination of the BSS.

 

>>>>>>>>>>> 

 

11.21.7.3         BSS transition management request

An AP that supports BSS transition management shall respond to a BSS Transition Management Query frame with a BSS Transition Management Request frame. The AP may send an unsolicited BSS Transition Management Request frame to a non-AP STA at any time if the non-AP STA indicates in the Extended Capabilities element that it support BSS transition management; otherwise the AP shall not send an unsolicited BSS Transition Management Request frame to the STA. [2220]The AP may broadcast a BSS Transition Management Request frame if at least one associated non-AP STA supports BSS transition management; otherwise the AP shall not broadcast a BSS Transition Management Request frame. When the BSS Transition Management Request frame is broadcast, a receiving non-AP STA shall not respond with a BSS Transition Management Response frame. A non-AP STA that supports BSS transition management shall respond to an individually addressed BSS Transition Management Request frame with a BSS Transition Management Response frame.

 

11.21.7.4 BSS transition management response

[2224]The AP’s SME may abandon or delay its BSS Termination decision based on policies that are out of the scope of this standard. The MLME-RESET.request primitive is invoked to terminate the BSS. The AP shall disassociate all STAs immediately prior to termination of the BSS.

 

 

发件人: Mark Rison [mailto:m.rison@xxxxxxxxxxx]
发送时间: 2022427 17:25
收件人: huangguogang <huangguogang1@xxxxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
主题: RE: 11me/D1.0 CID 2220 and 2224 in 22/0565r3

 

I think it was:

 

11.21.7.3         BSS transition management request

An AP that supports BSS transition management shall respond to a BSS Transition Management Query frame with a BSS Transition Management Request frame. The AP may send an unsolicited BSS Transition Management Request frame to a non-AP STA at any time if the non-AP STA indicates in the Extended Capabilities element that it support BSS transition management; otherwise the AP shall not send an unsolicited BSS Transition Management Request frame to the STA. [2220]The AP may broadcast a BSS Transition Management Request frame if at least one associated non-AP STA supports BSS transition management; otherwise the AP shall not broadcast a BSS Transition Management Request frame. When the BSS Transition Management Request frame is broadcast, a receiving non-AP STA shall not respond with a BSS Transition Management Response frame. A non-AP STA that supports BSS transition management shall respond to an individually addressed BSS Transition Management Request frame with a BSS Transition Management Response frame.

 

Thanks,

 

Mark

 

--

Mark RISON, Standards Architect, WLAN   English/Esperanto/Français

Samsung Cambridge Solution Centre       Tel: +44 1223  434600

Innovation Park, Cambridge CB4 0DS      Fax: +44 1223  434601

ROYAUME UNI                             WWW: http://www.samsung.com/uk

 

From: huangguogang <000017b1384624cd-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, 27 April 2022 09:47
To: STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGM] 11me/D1.0 CID 2220 and 2224 in 22/0565r3

 

--- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Task Group M Technical Reflector ---

Hi all,

 

Please note that the following changes are ready for motion under CID 2220 and 2224 in 22/0565r3.

 

11.21.7.3         BSS transition management request

An AP that supports BSS transition management shall respond to a BSS Transition Management Query frame with a BSS Transition Management Request frame. The AP may send an unsolicited BSS Transition Management Request frame to a non-AP STA at any time if the non-AP STA indicates in the Extended Capabilities element that it support BSS transition management; otherwise the AP shall not send an unsolicited BSS Transition Management Request frame to the STA. The AP may transmit a group addressed BSS Transition Management Request frame to associated non-AP STAs if all associated non-AP STAs support the BSS transition management; otherwise the AP shall not transmit a group addressed BSS Transition Management Request frame. When the BSS Transition Management Request frame is transmitted as a group addressed frame, a receiving non-AP STA shall not respond with a BSS Transition Management Response frame. A non-AP STA that supports BSS transition management shall respond to an individually addressed BSS Transition Management Request frame with a BSS Transition Management Response frame.

 

11.21.7.4 BSS transition management response

The AP’s SME may terminate or delay BSS Termination based on policies that are out of the scope of this standard. The MLME-RESET.request primitive is invoked to terminate the BSS. The AP shall disassociate all STAs immediately prior to termination of the BSS.

 

>>>>>>>>>>> 

 

11.21.7.3         BSS transition management request

An AP that supports BSS transition management shall respond to a BSS Transition Management Query frame with a BSS Transition Management Request frame. The AP may send an unsolicited BSS Transition Management Request frame to a non-AP STA at any time if the non-AP STA indicates in the Extended Capabilities element that it support BSS transition management; otherwise the AP shall not send an unsolicited BSS Transition Management Request frame to the STA. [2220]The AP may broadcast a BSS Transition Management Request frame if at least one associated non-AP STA supports BSS transition management; otherwise the AP shall not transmit a broadcast BSS Transition Management Request frame. When the BSS Transition Management Request frame is broadcast, a receiving non-AP STA shall not respond with a BSS Transition Management Response frame. A non-AP STA that supports BSS transition management shall respond to an individually addressed BSS Transition Management Request frame with a BSS Transition Management Response frame.

 

11.21.7.4 BSS transition management response

[2224]The AP’s SME may abandon or delay its BSS Termination decision based on policies that are out of the scope of this standard. The MLME-RESET.request primitive is invoked to terminate the BSS. The AP shall disassociate all STAs immediately prior to termination of the BSS.

Regards

Guogang Huang


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