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Re: [STDS-802-11] HEW SG Telecon 20131030 (dianin information and tentative agenda)



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Hello Graham,

 

Thank you a lot for the great introductory presentation today.

Let me revisit my comment with more detail.

As far as I understand, in Wi-Fi networks, per-user throughput can be roughly approximately given by (1-P ) * C/N, where P, C, N refer to the frame loss rate, channel capacity, and the number of users within the carrier sensing range, respectively.

P mainly depends on the number of hidden nodes outside the carrier sensing range and N is determined by the carrier sensing range and the area density of STAs within it.

FYI, specifically in HEW’s dense scenarios, it is hard to think that all the non-AP STAs are uniform in density for multi-BSS networks.

So, optimal carrier sensing threshold of a DSC-capable STA for enhancing per-user throughput may be highly depending on the area density of STAs nearby the observing STA and overall network conditions,

which be hardly got because neither gathering STAs’ location info. nor AP-to-AP exchange of network conditions are easy now.

That is, my concern is that just heuristic operation of DSC (without consideration of sharing STAs’ location info. and network conditions info.) may have limited impact on per-user throughput enhancement in HEW environments.  

 

Thank you.

 

Best Regards,

 

Minho

 

 

From: *** IEEE stds-802-11 List *** [mailto:STDS-802-11@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Osama AboulMagd
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 8:50 PM
To: STDS-802-11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11] HEW SG Telecon 20131030 (dianin information and tentative agenda)

 

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Hello All,

 

A HEW SG telecon is scheduled for Wednesday, October 30 at 10:00 ET. Please let me know if you plan a submission.

 

Dial in information is given below. Thanks to Reza for arranging the webex.

 

A tentative agenda is given below. Please let me know if you want to add an item to the agenda.

 

·         Call the meeting to order

·         IEEE 802 and 802.11 IPR policies and procedure

·         Attendance Reminder. Please send an e.mail to inoue.yasuhiko@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and/or osama.aboulmagd@xxxxxxxxxx

·         https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-1290-00-0hew-dynamic-sensitivity-control-for-hew.pptx - Graham Smith (DSP Group)

·         AoB

·         Adjourn

 

  

 

Teleconferences are bound by the conditions stipulated by the documentation below. Please review them and bring up any questions/concerns you may have before proceeding with the teleconference.

 

 

•       http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/loa.pdf            

•       http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html          

•       http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt          

•       http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/faq.pdf           

•       http://www.ieee802.org/policies-and-procedures.pdf             

 

 

Regards;

Osama

 

 

-----Original Appointment-----
From: Reza Hedayat (rehedaya) [mailto:rehedaya@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 11:56 AM
To: Osama AboulMagd; Brian Hart (brianh)
Subject: HEW SG Telecon 20131030
When: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:00 AM-12:00 PM (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada).
Where: webex

 

 

Hi Osama, Below is the webex invite for HEW call on Oct 30, 10:00 ET.

 

Reza

 

 

Regarding WebEx

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Meeting Password: HEW-SG

 

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