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Re: [STDS-802-11] Questions on MAC Figures in Draft P802.11REVmc_D5.0



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Subject: [STDS-802-11] Questions on MAC Figures in Draft P802.11REVmc_D5.0

 

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All,

 

I have questions on two MAC figures in Draft P802.11REVmc_D5.0 (and early versions). Any explanation is appreciated.

 

1) Figure 10-4: Some IFS relationships

          In statement "Immediate access when Medium is idle >= DIFS or AIFS[i]", should >= be >?

         Because >= indicates two cases: > or =. The case > is no problem, but case = may violate backoff rule. Because with =, a STA can wait for DIFS or AIFS[i], then immediately access medium even after busy medium (since medium is already idle for DIFS or AIFS[i] time).

 

[Adrian P Stephens]

There are two different uses for DIFS (and likewise AIFS):

1.       If an MSDU arrives for transmission when the medium has been idle for >= DIFS

2.       To precede a backoff time of random() x slot duration

 

“Immediate access”, IMHO, applies to the first case,  and the equals sign is appropriate.  See 1289.43 (REVmc D5.0).

This is distinct from backoff.

 

 

2) Figure 10-13: Example of exponential increase of CW

     Should the initial CW value (i.e., CWmin value) be 8 instead of 7?

     Because if CW = 7 for initial attempt, it means CWmin = 7. Then for the first retransmission, CW should be CWmin x 2 - 1 =  7 x 2 - 1 = 13, and for the second retransmission, CW should be 7x2x2-1 = 27, ...

[Adrian P Stephens]

Please see 1288.62:  “The set of CW values shall be sequentially ascending integer powers of 2, minus 1”

 

Jianlin Guo

Mitsubishi Electric Research Labs

Cambridge, MA, USA

 

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