> While I understand that we all would love to get back to F2F meetings asap, at least for me as an international participant, I believe the pre-departure requirements (PCR Test within
48 hours etc.) and the 14 – 21 days quarantine requirement upon return to home country (likely on personal expense) is a bigger concern (than possible infection).
This.
Being lucky enough to be double-vaccinated, I have no concerns
about dying of COVID-19.
I would, however, have concerns about hotel
quarantine.
Canada is currently on the
"green list" for return to the
UK, so I would be happy to attend a F2F in Canada this November, but
if the F2F in Panama had not been cancelled, I would not have attended,
assuming it remained on the
"red list". (The USA is on the
"amber list",
which is equivalent to the "green list" for the double-vaccinated, though
there is a risk it might slip into the red list, and in any case I
would consider very carefully which jurisdiction within the USA a
meeting is held in (e.g. Florida does not seem to me to be the best of
choices).)
> Perhaps it would be good if we also collect the reasons for people voting No from next rounds of Poll. It may provide more insight.
I agree.
Thanks,
Mark
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From: Rojan Chitrakar <rojan.chitrakar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, 6 September 2021 05:07
To: STDS-802-11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11] Results of WG11 Polls regarding November 2021 and January 2022 sessions
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Hi Dan,
Thanks for the insightful statistics; I didn’t know that the risk of death by chocking on food is so high; I will be more careful while eating henceforth
😊
While I understand that we all would love to get back to F2F meetings asap, at least for me as an international participant, I believe the pre-departure requirements (PCR Test within 48
hours etc.) and the 14 – 21 days quarantine requirement upon return to home country (likely on personal expense) is a bigger concern (than possible infection).
Perhaps it would be good if we also collect the reasons for people voting No from next rounds of Poll. It may provide more insight.
Regards,
Rojan
From: Harkins, Daniel <daniel.harkins@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 6, 2021 3:50 AM
To: STDS-802-11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11] Results of WG11 Polls regarding November 2021 and January 2022 sessions
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A little perspective after these results. Of course your country may vary (and odds of death by gun assault in the USA is not indicative of the same elsewhere) but largely these numbers
should play out roughly the same in most large, modern, societies. Check the attached for references.
Death of a vaccinated person from COVID: 1 in 137,698
Death by lightning strike: 1 in 138,849
Death from sunstroke: 1 in 8,248
Death by choking on food: 1 in 2,535
etc.
Now who goes around orienting their life over the possibility of getting struck by lightning? No one! And we would look with concern at someone who was that obsessed over such a minute
risk that he or she stopped living his or her life. Indeed, such a person would be an object of ridicule up to the time he or she was involuntarily committed for a mental evaluation. While death by choking on food is orders of magnitude more probable than
a vaccinated person dying of COVID, we still seem to eat with abandon and with little concern for the risk involved.
Risk management is what people do all the time and have done since time immemorial. We should get back to it with COVID.
Dan.
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escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." – Marcus Aurelius
On 9/1/21, 10:02 AM, "Dorothy Stanley" <dstanley1389@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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All,
The poll results from the recent polls regarding attending in-person meetings for the upcoming 2 sessions are below. This information is one of the inputs into
the decision making for the meetings to be in-person or electronic.
November 2021: 80 Yes, 184 No, 7 Abstain
January 2022: 90 Yes, 140 No, 13 Abstain
Thanks,
Dorothy
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