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[STDS-802-11] Discussion on UHR presentation 11/23-046r2 “Multi-AP Coordination for Low Latency Traffic Delivery: Usage Scenarios and potential features”



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Hi all,

 

I have presented 11-23/46r2 “Multi-AP Coordination for Low Latency Traffic Delivery: Usage Scenarios and potential features” in the UHR SG meeting this Thursday. And this is to initiate a further discussion on the contribution.

 

Below are the responses to some of the questions that were raised in the meeting or offline discussion until now. If you have further comments on the contribution please send the mail to me. Any comments and suggestions are welcome. Thanks.

 

1) Rubayet: my comment was that your presentation seems to be doing R-TWT MAP coordination specifically to help one particular client.

[LM] The contribution just gives an example of a STA requesting for R-TWT setup with multi-AP coordination, another STA can also follow the same procedure. And in comparison with R-TWT setup in one BSS, more factors needs to be considered for R-TWT setup with multi-AP coordination, such as the channel condition for the STA, the interfering STAs, and the requirements for the low latency traffic to be delivery, the STAs to be restricted for transmission etc. If more STAs request for R-TWT setup with multi-AP coordination, the coordination needs to consider more factors related with the STAs. How to response to R-TWT setup request needs the negotiation among multiple APs.

 

2) Dmitry: what you propose is very close to already defined/existing C-SR or combination of TDMA + C-SR. The TDMA part is TWT SP in your contribution. So, this mode is not a new one, it already exists today and the group has been discussing it since the beginning of .11be. The only new part is a need to coordinate/align rTWT SPs, which os definitely needed, and i think, as Laurent mentioned, it is better to discuss coordination of rTWTs between AP along with other contributions on that topic.

[LM] I think that the key point of multiple-ap coordination for low latency delivery is to coordinate/align rTWT SPs, the TDMA + C-SR can be one of methods helpful to coordinate rTWT SPs, such as which STAs are suitable to be member STAs, which STAs need to be restricted for transmission during SPs. I would like to discuss the coordination of rTWTs among APs with the members on this topic.

 

3) Jinyoung: I wonder Type 2 is suitable for Low latency traffic. Even if Type 2 can be supported by some conditions e.g. option 1a, Type 2 coordination needs more preparing procedure before data transmission than Type 1. For example, collecting exact RU info for C-OFDMA or exchanging data among APs for JTX, etc.

 

[LM] I agree with your opinion. Type 1 may be suitable for most scenarios, and Type 2 is used only in some special scenarios under strict requirements with more procedure needed.

 

[Brian]In slide 4, you write “Option 1: AP1 and AP2 communicate with each other by co-channel signaling with better KPIs  … Option 2b: APs can share the information by backhaul with limited KPIs” To my mind there also is a “combined” option – i.e., APs can communicate via both wired backhaul and wirelessly, and can take advantage of the strengths of each mode of communications.

[LM] I agree with your opinion. The combined option needs to be considered.

 

 

Best regards,

Liuming Lu

 

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主题: [STDS-802-11] UHR call for presentation and plan for March F2F meeting

 

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Hi,

This is a call for presentation for the 802.11 UHR SG F2F for March. Please let me know if you want to be in the agenda before Saturday March 11th EoD.

 

Plan for March F2F meeting:

The main objective is to converge and agree on the PAR and CSD documents for UHR at the end of the week, so strong priority will be put into the discussion on these documents. 

As part of this, we will have a poll to evaluate if there is sufficient support to include mmWave in the scope of UHR PAR, and adjust the PAR document accordingly.

 

Thanks,

Laurent

 

 


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